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Checkmate
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Acapella

Post by Checkmate » Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:43 pm

Hey, i dont know how hard or easy this is to do but, i assume its possible to make acapellas from a final product correct me if this is not possible, if it is can you help me.thank you
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Re: Acapella

Post by nitz » Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:45 pm

I dont understand your question :?
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Re: Acapella

Post by tripwire22 » Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:48 pm

Checkmate wrote:Hey, i dont know how hard or easy this is to do but, i assume its possible to make acapellas from a final product correct me if this is not possible, if it is can you help me.thank you
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Re: Acapella

Post by Checkmate » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:00 pm

How does everyone get their acapellas, it seems youd have to have someone in the studio sneak a copy out.
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Re: Acapella

Post by darkmatteruk » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:01 pm

yes, we all have our own little spies in the top studios around the world :lol:

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Re: Acapella

Post by nitz » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:02 pm

oo are you asking where we get them from?
well Google is a nice place.... Plus some digital shops sale them
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Re: Acapella

Post by tripwire22 » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:03 pm

i get em from 2 really good sites....ALSO youtube buddy

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Re: Acapella

Post by tripwire22 » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:04 pm

Checkmate wrote:How does everyone get their acapellas, it seems youd have to have someone in the studio sneak a copy out.

there is a technique to rip vox from songs....i wont go into details i barely kno

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Re: Acapella

Post by Checkmate » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:38 pm

Well im happy that you get acapellas from 2 really good sites, that helped alot, and yes i thought there was a method that was my original question and thats basically why i posted.but thanks for all the help lmao
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Re: Acapella

Post by frank grimes jr. » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:42 pm

What type of acapellas are you looking for?

Are you aware that some artists release acapella's on b sides of vinyl?

Have you tried searching google, because they almost will smack you in the face if you do.
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Re: Acapella

Post by Checkmate » Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:03 pm

I was hoping someone knew a method on how to make your own, i read about a vst that was able to do something like what i want but that was when i was just first starting to learn about vsts so i dont remember the name, if noone here knows the method ill have to search harder for a tut or just hope everything ill ever want as far as acapellas go are somewhere on the web.Thanks for replying though everyone.
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Re: Acapella

Post by 86. » Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:15 pm

check this:
Separating Vocals from Songs
Sunday, September 6, 2009 at 9:06am
I've gotten quite a few inquiries from people recently on how to separate vocals from a song, so they can then remix those vocals into a different track. It's very difficult to do, but it IS possible in some cases, so I'll outline a way to make it happen here.


First, in order to do this, you need to find a radio edit of the song that you like, with vocals. Then, you also need to find the exact same version of the song but as an instrumental, ie. without the vocals. If you can't find both of these two versions, then this trick won't be possible.

Next, you need to import the two audio files into your sequencer. Line them up perfectly in parallel, down to the millisecond. You need to be able to play them simultaneously so that they sound exactly like just one song (except for the vocals standing out, of course).

Now, convert each track to mono, so the two stereo channels are combined in each track. They need to be panned to the center.

Once you've done the above steps, and you know that they are completely synchronized, then take the instrumental track and invert the phase of the entire track.

Now, play the two tracks together, or bounce them to disk. The phase inverted version in the instrumental will cancel out the waveforms of the music in the vocal version, leaving only the vocals behind.

Now if you cannot find the full song as both a vocal take and an instrumental with the same arrangement, then you're almost out of luck. The only rare exception is that if you have just the vocal version, sometimes (in theory) you can pull tiny snippets of the vocals out from the track by cutting it up and following the steps above (for instance if there is a chorus with vocals and another "chorus" chord arrangement in the song without singing). This wouldn't work with rock songs, because they are recorded live and they won't be exactly the same, even if the musicians tried to play them exactly the same. But in today's studio-heavy world, some pop songs which are computer produced are probably generic enough to make it work. I've never actually tried this, but in theory, you might find some songs that you could do it with.


Let's step back for a while and ask why you're separating the vocals from a song. I presume that you're trying to remix a track that you like. Are you doing it because you like that track specifically, and no other? If you're doing this as a project for an artist, they should be able to provide the vocals for you. If you're doing it for yourself, then you face a bigger challenge.

An audio file that contains only vocals and no instruments at all is called an acappella. This term is actually a contraction of two Latin words, "a cappella," which literally means "from the chapel," or figuratively, "from the choir." You can do internet searches for acappella tracks in all kinds of places: Google, torrent sites, and legitimate music sites. The trick is to remember that many people spell the word incorrectly. To search effectively, you should search for "accappella" and "acappella" and "acapella" (this last one is the most common spelling and yields the best results in searches, although some people argue that the one with two P's is more correct).

Personally, rather than bang my head against a wall trying to find vocals for a specific track that I want to remix, I do it this way: I'll spend half an hour on the net, trying to locate an acappella for that particular song. If I can't find one in that amount of time, I'm probably not ever going to find one. Sometimes, it is better to just admit defeat and look instead for acappellas in general, and then pick one that you like which is already available.

There are a lot of acappellas out there. If you search download or torrent sites, you can find lots of legal ones that you can download very quickly. Some have to be purchased, but many are free, depending on which sources you use. Go to www.beatport.com as an example. Enter "acappella" into the search engine, and you'll find several hundred tracks to choose from. Enter "acapella" and you'll find thousands.

In rare cases, if you are looking for a specific song, you can actually contact the artist and ask if you can have a copy of the vocals. Some artists will give these out, although it's pretty rare on major labels unless you happen to be a very well-known remixer with a lot of previous credits on your resume. Many smart studios/artists will recognize the fact that the more often that their songs are remixed, the more publicity (and therefore royalties) that go to the copyright holders for the songs. The remixer doesn't get any royalties (except in certain uncommon exceptions for top remixers). Usually, all the money is made by the original artist (or I should say, more accurately, by the studio). Of course, you do also have to recognize that a bad remix of a track doesn't help much, because it won't get played and therefore won't drive radio-play or other royalties. Some artists/studios will provide vocals under strict conditions that the artist/studio gets to review the remix first before it is allowed to be released, and they have the right to prevent the remixer from releasing the remix if they don't like his/her version of the song.


So anyway, the moral of the story is that if you have your heart set on remixing one specific song, sometimes there are options. But usually, I find it is best to listen to some of the thousands of vocal recordings that are already out there, and choose one of those readily-available tracks to remix.

Good luck with your remixing projects!

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Re: Acapella

Post by Checkmate » Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:26 pm

thanks 86, and for those who care

http://www.elevayta.net/product13.htm
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Re: Acapella

Post by Rickmansworth » Thu Nov 19, 2009 10:15 pm

i think you are referring to the phase cancellation method of extracting vocals...i've never done it, but in theory it seems like it should work. i remember there was a thread in here a while ago where i first heard of it-- not sure if anyone had success or not. see http://community.beatmixing.com/eve/for ... 9501010242

you dont really need that though... there are some great sites online, just run a google search for "acapellas" and register at one of those sites.

otherwise, just do what i do and buy a usb turntable and head to the local record shops and dig for singles.. some of em will have acapellas that you can rip.

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Re: Acapella

Post by tripwire22 » Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:46 pm

Checkmate wrote:thanks 86, and for those who care

http://www.elevayta.net/product13.htm
i was being a jerk let me find those 2 links


http://www.dailywav.com/index.php

http://www.the-earchives.com/?sp=51

http://www.freesound.org/index.php

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