Technics to end production of 1210s and 1200s?

[rbnc]

http://www.dmcworld.co.nz/turntables/te ... 0-mk5.html

Panasonic (the manufacturer of Technics) have announced that production of the world famous Technics SL-1200 and SL-1210 DJ turntables will stop at the end of February 2010. If you are interested in securing a pair of the legendary turntables before they are gone, we have a limited number left in stock at DMC.

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The MK5s are going, but MK2s and MK5Gs are staying

[SKINDAD]

What's the difference between MK5s and MK5Gs?

[rbnc]

The MK5s are going, but MK2s and MK5Gs are staying

Source?

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What's the difference between MK5s and MK5Gs?

MK5G does +16% / -16%

Source?

http://www.skratchworx.com/news3/comments.php?id=603

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End of an era. DJs just not buying to facilitate the demand for decks. Everyone else just has a regular turntable.

I just hope the lack of record purchases doesn't put some great producers outta the game.

I still get records shipped from Redeye every month or so, all the way to Vancouver Island, BC Canada. Keeps my gigs unique.

[seckle]

its only in NZ and australia. the rest of the world is not affected.
http://www.skratchworx.com/news3/comments.php?id=603

[DZA]

Ive got mine so it aint gonna effect me

[hypnotizm]

I am looking forward to see a pair of 1200's at an antique shop in a distant future

[dj snipaz]

they'v been saying this for years

i used to work at a retailer who stocked technics

these allegations have been frequent as long as i can remember

[hd4000]

thats from an article thats 4 years old.somehow it resurfaced.

[seckle]

for all the hype squad.....this is the panasonic global pressroom, where press releases are issued. today is nov 28th. where is the press release about the 1200s?

http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/st ... upId=30531

this whole thing is some prick in the AU/NZ office getting over zealous.

[RealityHz]

for all the hype squad.....this is the panasonic global pressroom, where press releases are issued. today is nov 28th. where is the press release about the 1200s?

http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/st ... upId=30531

this whole thing is some prick in the AU/NZ office getting over zealous.

Show me the press release from any Dubstep label talking about their sales being up. Apparently those press releases come from the same site, because it doesn't exist.

[seckle]

for all the hype squad.....this is the panasonic global pressroom, where press releases are issued. today is nov 28th. where is the press release about the 1200s?

http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/st ... upId=30531

this whole thing is some prick in the AU/NZ office getting over zealous.

Show me the press release from any Dubstep label talking about their sales being up. Apparently those press releases come from the same site, because it doesn't exist.

um, most dubstep vinyl is sold at shops that don't barcode or tabulate sales. you're going to have a problem with that one champ. on the other hand LP vinyl sales of barcoded mainstream music has broken records this year, selling over 2 million units, up from 1.9 million last year, which broke the records of the previous years.

Nov 5th 2009

"Record albums are an experience that can't be duplicated digitally," said Astor, 38, of Falls Church. "I remember saving up for them, smelling them, reading the liner notes, admiring the artwork on the cover. It was an event."
A new generation is discovering vinyl. Based primarily on the sales of vinyl records, the company this year has already doubled its 2008 revenues and moved into a new facility three times larger to accommodate climbing record sales.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 01939.html

nov 13th 2009

...vinyl has made a comeback, and this year has seen the greatest number of vinyl albums sold since Nielsen SoundScan began to track sales in 1991....

http://www.billboard.com/column/dailyno ... 2799.story

Nov 12th 2009

Meanwhile, vinyl continues to be resurgent—vinyl sales have already beaten out the 2008 total of 1.9 million, with 2 million records already shifted this year.

http://www.prefixmag.com/news/downloads ... usi/34634/

jan 4th 2009

Ironically, in the new digital age, sales of vinyl LPs were at an all-time high (1.88 million). There has been a resurgence of vinyl due to the new turntables on the market that enable consumers to play an LP and also transfer the music onto their mp3 players/iPods or flash drives. All of the turntables today have this digital transfer capability.

http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/nie ... ival-plan/





enjoy those, and if you need more links about vinyl sales, we can keep doing this all day.

[seckle]

just because 25 smaller, newer labels in this scene aren't moving vinyl, doesn't mean that other's have problems. of course, those selling huge units, aren't going to come here online and dangle their stats in front of you. i know for a fact that some labels have sold 1500-2000 12"s in one week on big tunes. some tunes this year are over 3000 12's sold. i'm not mentioning names, but just take a look at the best selling vinyl lists at redeye, or juno to figure this out yourself.

now enough of vinyl is dying...back to technics. where is this sl1200 press release?


oh right, its not anywhere to be found...

[RealityHz]

just because 25 smaller, newer labels in this scene aren't moving vinyl, doesn't mean that other's have problems. of course, those selling huge units, aren't going to come here online and dangle their stats in front of you. i know for a fact that some labels have sold 1500-2000 12"s in one week on big tunes. some tunes this year are over 3000 12's sold. i'm not mentioning names, but just take a look at the best selling vinyl lists at redeye, or juno to figure this out yourself.

now enough of vinyl is dying...back to technics. where is this sl1200 press release?


oh right, its not anywhere to be found...

Your say-so means absolutely nothing dude. Name some names and have them confirm it or it's bullshit. You've shown me nothing that ties this to the forum upon which we post. What does this mean for the average label? Are the average label's sales up?

Exceptions all around. I'm sure Hotflush and Hyperdub are doing great. Nutthug away bro.

[seckle]

just because 25 smaller, newer labels in this scene aren't moving vinyl, doesn't mean that other's have problems. of course, those selling huge units, aren't going to come here online and dangle their stats in front of you. i know for a fact that some labels have sold 1500-2000 12"s in one week on big tunes. some tunes this year are over 3000 12's sold. i'm not mentioning names, but just take a look at the best selling vinyl lists at redeye, or juno to figure this out yourself.

now enough of vinyl is dying...back to technics. where is this sl1200 press release?


oh right, its not anywhere to be found...

Your say-so means absolutely nothing dude. Name some names and have them confirm it or it's bullshit. You've shown me nothing that ties this to the forum upon which we post. What does this mean for the average label? Are the average label's sales up?

Exceptions all around. I'm sure Hotflush and Hyperdub are doing great. Nutthug away bro.

lol. As if this is a court of law? Relax. Sure, the burden of proof is on me on this one, but you trying to zero in on stats and figures of dubstep sales shows your narrow perspective clearly. Electronica as a whole is about 1/8 of sales in comparison to rock/pop/hiphop. Even if i were to show you how much bengas or burials album sold (both of which are barcoded albums and trackable if you have a soundscan login account) there still is no way of knowing ultimately which labels are selling what units because the main label heads arent going to publicly release that info to a net forum.

i think you should spend your time thinking about why your releases arent selling, before being worried about what the next mans vinyl sold.

[RealityHz]

Benga and Burial aren't exactly your average selling Dubstep artists. Or Dance music artists for that matter.

That goes back to the average sales argument I made. You can name the top few labels or producers and use them as examples of the status quo, but they don't represent the general direction of sales do they? The point is that those sales prove that a couple of labels are doing well.

So a bunch of scene kids are buying vinyl. As soon as the next emo goth trend rolls into town they'll be all over it and leave it behind. How long have you worked for a distributor, label or as a touring DJ or producer exactly? You seem to have an interest in proving that sales are up because it validates you as a vinyl collector. But you don't collect indie vinyls I bet, so what does Dubstep have to do with it? It's what you're buying personally. You WOULD defend your position. See, I collect vinyl as well and you'd think we share the same opinion of what is happening. But my need to be right isn't clouding my judgment here. I see the writing on the wall.

So it comes back to what the sale of vinyl has to do with you personally... aside from defending what appears to be a long held snobbish stance, nothing. Yes, what does Dubstep have to do with this. Obviously people are trying to make the argument that vinyl is strong and they are fucking kidding themselves.

I don't need to ask myself shit about my sales because I don't have anything to sell. I don't produce and I don't release records anymore. What you should be asking yourself as a person who never has released a record, is what you even know about it at all.

File sharing is at an all time high. I guess that is why LPs are selling... for all 5 of the labels in Dubstep who released one this year.

[erra]

Ive got mine so it aint gonna effect me

Cool theory

[gigi]

Benga and Burial aren't exactly your average selling Dubstep artists. Or Dance music artists for that matter.

That goes back to the average sales argument I made. You can name the top few labels or producers and use them as examples of the status quo, but they don't represent the general direction of sales do they? The point is that those sales prove that a couple of labels are doing well.

So a bunch of scene kids are buying vinyl. As soon as the next emo goth trend rolls into town they'll be all over it and leave it behind. How long have you worked for a distributor, label or as a touring DJ or producer exactly? You seem to have an interest in proving that sales are up because it validates you as a vinyl collector. But you don't collect indie vinyls I bet, so what does Dubstep have to do with it? It's what you're buying personally. You WOULD defend your position. See, I collect vinyl as well and you'd think we share the same opinion of what is happening. But my need to be right isn't clouding my judgment here. I see the writing on the wall.

So it comes back to what the sale of vinyl has to do with you personally... aside from defending what appears to be a long held snobbish stance, nothing. Yes, what does Dubstep have to do with this. Obviously people are trying to make the argument that vinyl is strong and they are fucking kidding themselves.

I don't need to ask myself shit about my sales because I don't have anything to sell. I don't produce and I don't release records anymore. What you should be asking yourself as a person who never has released a record, is what you even know about it at all.

File sharing is at an all time high. I guess that is why LPs are selling... for all 5 of the labels in Dubstep who released one this year.

Two threads for an argument?

I saw links saying that the general sales of vinyl is up. Things may have been difficult for you while you were producing and putting out records, and things can be difficult for an underground scene but there's no need to spread paranoia and pessimism to everyone else. For the moment, the word going around about Technics being discontinued is all conjecture. Relax at least for the moment.