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Re: best cheap mic?

Post by deadly_habit » Wed Dec 02, 2009 8:40 pm

FSTZ wrote:haha

what do you mean phantom power??
but the plug on my computer mic in is like a headphone jack!

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Re: best cheap mic?

Post by FSTZ » Wed Dec 02, 2009 9:42 pm

"I bought this mic and it doesn't work"

- says the guy that bought the marshall MXL for $50 and forgot to buy a mic pre

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Re: best cheap mic?

Post by collige » Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:04 pm

deadly habit wrote:
FSTZ wrote:haha

what do you mean phantom power??
but the plug on my computer mic in is like a headphone jack!
:lol: :lol: :lol:

But yeah, buy an SM-57.
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Re: best cheap mic?

Post by alphacat » Wed Dec 02, 2009 10:32 pm

More records have probably been recorded with 57's and 58's than all others put together. Which is not to say how many of them were actually any good, but... yeah.

The other part of the equation - and whose importance is a matter of opinion, but it's still good to understand as best possible - is mic placement.

It's kind of a lost art these days (along with mono reference mixes and tape splicing) but it's actually kind of fun to trip around a space listening for the sweet spot as long as you're not on deadline. I remember reading about some engineers who wanted to build a robot that did nothing but mic placement so they never had to leave the control room.

Read up on the different kinds of mics (condenser, dynamic, ribbon, etc. etc.); try to get a grasp on polar patterns, making the shortest cable run possible, leakage, using gobos, and all the other operational fundamentals; and last but not least -

get a free subscription to Tape Op magazine and save back issues.

Oh yeah: don't buy a mic that's miniplug either. :roll: :lol: ...XLR or digital all the way.

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Re: best cheap mic?

Post by my_fickle_eye » Wed Dec 02, 2009 11:49 pm

ye depends on what's being recorded, I need to get a condenser for those quiet noises, and lovely high end.

the RED5AUDIO brand do good condensers cheap, anyone else used them? They sound pretty good to me and were recommended by my old lecturers.

http://www.red5audio.com/ukaboutus.htm

http://www.red5audio.com/acatalog/Condensor_Mics.html
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Re: best cheap mic?

Post by FSTZ » Thu Dec 03, 2009 12:14 am

alphacat wrote:More records have probably been recorded with 57's and 58's than all others put together. Which is not to say how many of them were actually any good, but... yeah.

The other part of the equation - and whose importance is a matter of opinion, but it's still good to understand as best possible - is mic placement.

It's kind of a lost art these days (along with mono reference mixes and tape splicing) but it's actually kind of fun to trip around a space listening for the sweet spot as long as you're not on deadline. I remember reading about some engineers who wanted to build a robot that did nothing but mic placement so they never had to leave the control room.

Read up on the different kinds of mics (condenser, dynamic, ribbon, etc. etc.); try to get a grasp on polar patterns, making the shortest cable run possible, leakage, using gobos, and all the other operational fundamentals; and last but not least -

get a free subscription to Tape Op magazine and save back issues.

Oh yeah: don't buy a mic that's miniplug either. :roll: :lol: ...XLR or digital all the way.
yes, the sm57 and 58 are great mics for guitar cabs, snare drums and live performance

they are so good they havent changed a thing since the 60's

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Re: best cheap mic?

Post by nowaysj » Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:19 am

Got the audio technica 3030 for $135. Amazing quality for the price. But for real.
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Re: best cheap mic?

Post by alphacat » Thu Dec 03, 2009 1:46 am

FSTZ wrote:yes, the sm57 and 58 are great mics for guitar cabs, snare drums and live performance

they are so good they havent changed a thing since the 60's
And you can throw 'em against a fuckin' wall and they'll still work fine.... but I wouldn't recommend it.

Used to use a 58 on stage with my old band: things happened to that mic that should never happen to any mic, and yet - I still have it and it sounds as good as the day I bought it.
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Re: best cheap mic?

Post by collige » Thu Dec 03, 2009 2:50 am

:lol: You just wanted an excuse to post that, didn't you?
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Re: best cheap mic?

Post by zonetrooper5 » Sat Dec 05, 2009 11:46 am

You could use the rock band mic to record stuff which is what I use. :lol:

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Re: best cheap mic?

Post by Depone » Sat Dec 05, 2009 11:59 am

rhode m3's arent bad.


Btw to the OP. I think you didnt realise you just opened a whole barrel of worms.

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Re: best cheap mic?

Post by deadly_habit » Sun Dec 06, 2009 1:42 pm

alphacat wrote:
FSTZ wrote:yes, the sm57 and 58 are great mics for guitar cabs, snare drums and live performance

they are so good they havent changed a thing since the 60's
And you can throw 'em against a fuckin' wall and they'll still work fine.... but I wouldn't recommend it.

Used to use a 58 on stage with my old band: things happened to that mic that should never happen to any mic, and yet - I still have it and it sounds as good as the day I bought it.
now that'll i'll disagree with. they can take some abuse but the sennheisers and ev are much better in that department. dent a screen on a 58 and it sounds like shit

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Re: best cheap mic?

Post by FSTZ » Mon Dec 07, 2009 2:39 pm

see, if you damage the crown on a sm58 you fuck up the polar pattern which will cause the mic to feedback

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Re: best cheap mic?

Post by serox » Mon Dec 07, 2009 3:14 pm

I was looking for a mic as it goes. I wanted to try and record some vocals, would the Shure sm57 be ok for that at home?
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Re: best cheap mic?

Post by zonetrooper5 » Mon Dec 07, 2009 3:25 pm

Seem to have posted the same thing twice, mods just delete this post.
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Re: best cheap mic?

Post by the dub lemon » Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:32 pm

I got a Rode NT-1A and for the price it's pretty outstanding....a bit more pricey though.

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Re: best cheap mic?

Post by deadly_habit » Mon Dec 07, 2009 4:49 pm

serox wrote:I was looking for a mic as it goes. I wanted to try and record some vocals, would the Shure sm57 be ok for that at home?
the only diff between the 57 and 58 is the screen
guts wise they are the dame

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Re: best cheap mic?

Post by my_fickle_eye » Mon Dec 07, 2009 5:27 pm

If still recomend the RV6 http://www.red5audio.com/acatalog/Condensor_Mics.html. For the money you wont get a better condensor (gauntlet layed)
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Re: best cheap mic?

Post by FSTZ » Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:46 pm

serox wrote:I was looking for a mic as it goes. I wanted to try and record some vocals, would the Shure sm57 be ok for that at home?
you might want an SM58 so you dont cut yout lips (SM57 is more for instruments / SM58 is for vocal use)

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