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Re: Video of a guy remaking Prodigy's Smack My Bitch Up

Post by wirez » Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:48 pm

hans blix wrote:Guy makes Smack My Bitch Up from scratch using the samples Prodigy used... nuts.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU5Dn-WaElI
Wow if this guy doesn't have a list of where the samples came from he must have an amazing ear and huge knowledge of old records!

Amazing reproduction, was quite surprised at some of his decisions on arrangements in process/effects chains though :o , like Saturation after Limiting, I would usually make Limiting my last process on the signal chain... Might look into this! Strange how he changes things to mono decisively after processing them as well, if I was going to mono a track I'd usually make it the first thing I'd do :?

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Re: Video of a guy remaking Prodigy's Smack My Bitch Up

Post by wirez » Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:53 pm

whet wrote:I like this one more :) Very nice video editing:



but the other one shows more the whole process tho.
Haha some people just have far too much time on their hands! Compared tot he other guy though, this guy should spend more time on his music production and less time on his (very skillful) video editing!
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Re: Video of a guy remaking Prodigy's Smack My Bitch Up

Post by graish » Sat Dec 19, 2009 1:09 pm

thanks for posting this. Its given me a lot to think about :!:

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Re: Video of a guy remaking Prodigy's Smack My Bitch Up

Post by nitz » Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:28 pm

Depone wrote:
nitz wrote:Big, but why did he turn everything to mono... ? almost everything is in mono.. besides like 1 send he had :?
Its probably down to the akai samplers such as the 9500 which had only mono sampling?
ooo i thought i got of one the most fundamentals of mixing wrong there for a second :P
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Re: Video of a guy remaking Prodigy's Smack My Bitch Up

Post by wirez » Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:35 pm

nitz wrote:
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nitz wrote:Big, but why did he turn everything to mono... ? almost everything is in mono.. besides like 1 send he had :?
Its probably down to the akai samplers such as the 9500 which had only mono sampling?
ooo i thought i got of one the most fundamentals of mixing wrong there for a second :P
Once you know the essentials, trust your ears more than DSF lol. If your ears are agreeing with your techniques that something is sounding right or wrong, then who are you to argue... You'd be pretty fucked without trust in your ears :6:
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Re: Video of a guy remaking Prodigy's Smack My Bitch Up

Post by mico viejo » Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:21 pm

wirez wrote:
whet wrote:I like this one more :) Very nice video editing:



but the other one shows more the whole process tho.
Haha some people just have far too much time on their hands! Compared tot he other guy though, this guy should spend more time on his music production and less time on his (very skillful) video editing!

while the idea is funny and well done (i.e. arguably it is good film making), there is nothing skillful or special about the editing of this video. in fact it's completely ordinary.

i suspect you are confusing film-making with editing. not the same thing at all.

anyway, on a different note: anyone feeling like i noob after watching the 1st video clearly is a noob. that track is over 10 years old and nothing in it would be considered remotely advanced, innovative or complicated now. if you dont even know how to use a drum loop and move a couple of beats around then you really still have a lot to learn. i'm not saying this to be a tnuc, but i'm a bit surprised at how many ppl find that video in anyway informative: what you see in there is the absolute basics of sample-based music production.

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Re: Video of a guy remaking Prodigy's Smack My Bitch Up

Post by Depone » Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:53 pm

mico viejo wrote:
wirez wrote:
whet wrote:I like this one more :) Very nice video editing:



but the other one shows more the whole process tho.
Haha some people just have far too much time on their hands! Compared tot he other guy though, this guy should spend more time on his music production and less time on his (very skillful) video editing!

while the idea is funny and well done (i.e. arguably it is good film making), there is nothing skillful or special about the editing of this video. in fact it's completely ordinary.

i suspect you are confusing film-making with editing. not the same thing at all.

anyway, on a different note: anyone feeling like i noob after watching the 1st video clearly is a noob. that track is over 10 years old and nothing in it would be considered remotely advanced, innovative or complicated now. if you dont even know how to use a drum loop and move a couple of beats around then you really still have a lot to learn. i'm not saying this to be a tnuc, but i'm a bit surprised at how many ppl find that video in anyway informative: what you see in there is the absolute basics of sample-based music production.
Its not what he used.. ie drum loops etc... its how he pieced them together in a creative and imaginative way. I consider myself as a good producer, and yes i did feel noobish after watching this, bot because of how he went about doing things, but how the bits were pieced together seamlessly.

Although you're saying this to NOT sound like a tnuc, i can only see it as the opposite. Get off your high horse, of course people are noobs... did you think everyone was born as liam howlett?

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Re: Video of a guy remaking Prodigy's Smack My Bitch Up

Post by contakt321 » Sat Dec 19, 2009 4:41 pm

Wow, what a great video.

Always thought that was a great tune, and knew about half the samples but seeing this was excellent. The sheer volume of layers in this, is crazy.

Also, for Mico Viejo and anyone who didn't find this impressive, remember this was made 12 years ago before DAWs were commomplace, when a decent sampler or synth as easily $1,000 if not $2,000 and you couldn't crack stuff. Time stretching samples or even copying samples took a while. You had to chop samples by ear or on nice samplers by a crappy waveform that took forever to draw. Not to mention no automation or anything.

This track is amazingly well put together. Great video, thanks for posting!

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Re: Video of a guy remaking Prodigy's Smack My Bitch Up

Post by nitz » Sat Dec 19, 2009 7:46 pm

wirez wrote:
nitz wrote:
Depone wrote:
nitz wrote:Big, but why did he turn everything to mono... ? almost everything is in mono.. besides like 1 send he had :?
Its probably down to the akai samplers such as the 9500 which had only mono sampling?
ooo i thought i got of one the most fundamentals of mixing wrong there for a second :P
Once you know the essentials, trust your ears more than DSF lol. If your ears are agreeing with your techniques that something is sounding right or wrong, then who are you to argue... You'd be pretty fucked without trust in your ears :6:
I have a good understanding,I was not favoring DSF over my ears if that what you thought haha!I just didn't understand why anyone would have everything in mono. However if you listened to the end result it sounded petty sweet (bareing in mind, it is a youtube vid) , so i was just making sure that it was not just me thinking he had everything on mono.
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Re: Video of a guy remaking Prodigy's Smack My Bitch Up

Post by wirez » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:05 pm

nitz wrote:
wirez wrote:
nitz wrote:
Depone wrote:
nitz wrote:Big, but why did he turn everything to mono... ? almost everything is in mono.. besides like 1 send he had :?
Its probably down to the akai samplers such as the 9500 which had only mono sampling?
ooo i thought i got of one the most fundamentals of mixing wrong there for a second :P
Once you know the essentials, trust your ears more than DSF lol. If your ears are agreeing with your techniques that something is sounding right or wrong, then who are you to argue... You'd be pretty fucked without trust in your ears :6:
I have a good understanding,I was not favoring DSF over my ears if that what you thought haha!I just didn't understand why anyone would have everything in mono. However if you listened to the end result it sounded petty sweet (bareing in mind, it is a youtube vid) , so i was just making sure that it was not just me thinking he had everything on mono.
Ahh yeh man don't get the wrong idea that wasn't specifically aimed at you, I've just found myself in the position of questioning my own abilities in the past when I've see people do things different to the way I thought things were supposed to be, now that I've done so much research, studying, practice and more practice I have learnt to trust myself more... That's all I was saying :)
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Re: Video of a guy remaking Prodigy's Smack My Bitch Up

Post by nitz » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:13 pm

^^

Fair enough mate. Well like they say... practice makes perfection hey..
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Re: Video of a guy remaking Prodigy's Smack My Bitch Up

Post by wirez » Sat Dec 19, 2009 10:17 pm

mico viejo wrote: while the idea is funny and well done (i.e. arguably it is good film making), there is nothing skillful or special about the editing of this video. in fact it's completely ordinary.
i suspect you are confusing film-making with editing. not the same thing at all.
Fair enough, I'm a music producer with little video knowledge, sorry if I got the term wrong Mr Encyclopedia.
mico viejo wrote:anyway, on a different note: anyone feeling like i noob after watching the 1st video clearly is a noob.
IF you look at the people saying it, they're clearly NOT
mico viejo wrote:that track is over 10 years old and nothing in it would be considered remotely advanced, innovative or complicated now.
Mozart composed in the 1700's, I'd still class his music as advanced, innovative and complicated.
mico viejo wrote:if you dont even know how to use a drum loop and move a couple of beats around then you really still have a lot to learn.
If you don't know how to watch an entire video and see there's more to something than you ignorantly point out, then you really still have a lot to learn.
mico viejo wrote:i'm a bit surprised at how many ppl find that video in anyway informative:
You're obviously unaware of the different skill level of all the different producers and engineers on the forum then.
mico viejo wrote:what you see in there is the absolute basics of sample-based music production.
Personally I'd class that as intermediate, if not advanced technique. I can think of things a lot more simple to do with samples. Fuck knows what you do so special with yours... You must have your feet kissed for being the next sample genius right?

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Re: Video of a guy remaking Prodigy's Smack My Bitch Up

Post by darkmatteruk » Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:38 am

i had absolutely no idea the prodigy went about their business like that

you see them on stage with drummers, guitar player etc, always thought thats how they came up with music in the studio


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Re: Video of a guy remaking Prodigy's Smack My Bitch Up

Post by narcissus » Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:28 am

i don't see any reason to hate, but honestly, what's the point of recreating songs that have already been made? it didn't even sound as good as prodigy's..

and the dude's got like 5 plugs on his master channel when all he really wanted to do was compress and EQ.. i don't think he really knows what he's doing. + a stereo enhancer on the master???

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Re: Video of a guy remaking Prodigy's Smack My Bitch Up

Post by ajfa » Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:25 am

narcissus wrote:i don't see any reason to hate, but honestly, what's the point of recreating songs that have already been made? it didn't even sound as good as prodigy's..

and the dude's got like 5 plugs on his master channel when all he really wanted to do was compress and EQ.. i don't think he really knows what he's doing. + a stereo enhancer on the master???
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Re: Video of a guy remaking Prodigy's Smack My Bitch Up

Post by Depone » Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:28 pm

narcissus wrote:i don't see any reason to hate, but honestly, what's the point of recreating songs that have already been made? it didn't even sound as good as prodigy's..

and the dude's got like 5 plugs on his master channel when all he really wanted to do was compress and EQ.. i don't think he really knows what he's doing. + a stereo enhancer on the master???
Lots of people use stereo enhancers on the master bus, it just widens the highs above a set threshold a bit for sparkle. One thing i didnt get though is why he has two limiters on is master buss.

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Re: Video of a guy remaking Prodigy's Smack My Bitch Up

Post by jsills » Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:04 pm

only 2?? i like 7 minimum

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Re: Video of a guy remaking Prodigy's Smack My Bitch Up

Post by zonetrooper5 » Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:53 pm

jsills wrote:only 2?? i like 7 minimum
You use 7 limiters on your master channel? :o

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Post by 2manynoobs » Sun Jan 03, 2010 5:33 pm

let's sue him for copyright issues! 8)
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