SCOTTISH PAEDOPHILE RING - ROBERT REARRESTED!!!

[hackman]

official petition

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/offi ... -petition/


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Terrified Scottish Establishment Desperate To Suppress Exposure Of Their Paedophile Ring

A ring that connects into the 'heart' (wrong word) of the Scottish government (and possibly English) and involved Dunblane mass child killer, Thomas Hamilton.

Reporter Robert Green has been arrested and will appear in court in Aberdeen on Monday morning for the crime of exposing these sick and depraved people who get their 'kicks' from sexually abusing and raping children, including the Down's Syndrome girl, Hollie Greig.

http://scottishlaw.blogspot.com/2010/02 ... -lord.html
http://www.ukcolumn.org/2010/02/11/angi ... edophilia/


he was arrested for this information:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2P8W97Yucpk

FREE ROBERT GREEN

Please contact Grampian police and ask what is happening to him ...

Tel: 0845 600 5700 or email servicecentre@grampian.pnn.police.uk

Please contact Alex Salmond, leader of the Scottish Parliament, and demand that action is taken in this case ... email: firstminister@scotland.gsi.gov.uk

Please email Scottish Lord Advocate Elish Angiolini and demand that she stop the cover up of horrific child abuse by the Scottish 'elite' ... email elish.angiolini@scotland.gsi.gov.uk

Thousands have contacted these people to protest from all over the United Kingdom and indeed the world in the last two days. Please can we keep it up. Thank you.

[hackman]

hes been bailed actually now, but still why was he arrested in the first place? these people are scared

watch the videos, there is evidence for everything
bbc were going to do a feature and panorama on it, but suddenly had to pull out due to people fearing for losing theyre job

[hackman]

RE: Robert Green Detained By Grampian Police
Update: Robert is travelling home today. The police have witheld his mobile phone, so we have no contact at the moment. We will speak to him when he gets home, and try to find out the full terms of his bail.

What we know so far:

His house was raided by a Grampian police officer, witnessed by Shropshire police. His computer, files and some personal effects, for example CDs were taken (why?).

His bail includes a gagging order, so we don't know how much he will be able to say about what has happened to him.

His bail requires him to report to his local police station three times a week.

[hackman]

latest from hollie herself and her blog:


http://stolenkids-hollie.blogspot.co...ice-legal.html

P&J REPORT GRAMPIAN POLICE & LEGAL FARCE re: Hollie GREIG & Robert GREEN

Hello,

You don't tend to think that the Scottish Police, Lawyers and legal system are making themselves look totally ridiculous do you?

Chatting with Mum and friends that they have for years resisted investigating the long list of facts I reported to them yet now when Sheriff Graeme Buchanan has taken out local interdicts CLICK HERE (which are legally publishable in Scotland and list the FACTS Buchanan wants suppressed and have no validity south of the border as there is no such thing as an Interdict in law - probably because south of the border they have woken up to just how corrupt legal and police work is in Scotland!)

You really wonder what Grampian Police and their lawyers would do if they caught a criminal!

Our friend Robert Green was kidnapped from a guest house in Aberdeen because he MIGHT cause a breech of the peace by handing out some leaflets on his own in Union Street!!! No honest it isn't a joke.

Robert was eventually charged with CAUSING a breach of the peace but even then he was refused phone calls to reassure his son or daughter. Eventually after the Grampian Police had given different stories to different people they sent a West Mercian Officer to our house which was a bit scarey as we didn't know what had happened, just that Robert had disapeared. The people in the Guest House The Jays in Aberdeen which seems to run a 4 star SAFE HOUSE for the police dobbing in guests who visit from the South - lied and said they didn't know, when Grampian plod had searched his room and given them back the key after the kidnap!

They held Robert changing their story until they worked out a dishonest script to read out!

They sent at least one Officer some chap called Brian Gedus call #9768 and I think DS Drummond (he seems to answer the questions) sent all the way from Aberdeen to Warrington at public expense - Well Robert is an International Terrorist I guess having crossed the border and POSSIBLY he MIGHT have been going to cause a breach of the peace handing out leaflets! So they used the excuse as a gratuitous attempt to intimidate by burgling his house and stealing a number of his possesions including his computer and seemingly a brand new flat screen still in its box! No message was left and no receipt given - the 'stuff' was just stolen by Grampian Police and even Cheshire Police hadn't a clue what had been stolen!

It gets more ridiculouse when you realise he was held virtually incommunicado for 3 days! Then too ashamed to bring him to Court where this lone Terrorist might be seen ...... On Monday afternoon with the route covered by unmarked cars, with a team of special branch a Police escort and an intimidating number of police present Robert Green was smuggled into Stonehaven Court some 15 miles out of Aberdeen.

The farce goes on - too frightened of what Al McQaida might do The case was heard IN CAMERA, so there would be no honest credible witnesses and he was given a hack duty solicitor as his representative! So Denis Daun a local chappie from Stonehaven I presume without much briefing runs against presumably Levy & McKrae I presume as they have been sending out all the miss spelt ungrammatical threatening circulars to all and sundry and of course they work for Ms. Elish Angolini, Sheriff Buchanan, the main Scottish local papers (except The Scotsman).

The farce goes on - dont forget that Peter Watson was involved in the utterly corrupt Dunblane Inquiry and the thoroughly dishonest Snowdrop Campaign that was orchestrated by the police and is thought to have caused the huge increase in gun crimes in Britain.

Don't forget something I was told, who was the founder of Levy & McKrae, I gather it was the extremist Willy McKrae who had a very colourfull personal social life! He was an SNP extremist with I gather an abiding interest in investigating what was in the bottom of a large number of bottles who eventually died under very suspicious circumstances widely believed to be murder - but it was in Scotland so I wonder which Scottish lawyers, Banksters and politicians were emboilled in that! It probably involved The Spec

Also don't forget that Kenny MacAskill worked with Peter Watson and his cronies at Levy & McKrae!

Back to the farce - Finally Robert Green during a 15 minute hearing where we gather he made no pleading, was released on bail! IN CAMERA - Robert was bailed we gather being the major international terrorist who MIGHT have caused a breach of the peace IF he had handed out leaflets! Well we hear the terms of the bail include he is not allowed to tell the truth about Mum and I and he isn't allowed to discuss us! On top of that in a completely unreasonable condition he is obliged to present at Warrington Police Station three times a week - aren't they making fools of themselves in Scotland as if this major international terrorist charged with maybe, possibly, perhaps causing a breach of the peace if he might have possibly handed out some leaflets in Union Street.

Scotland is making a fool of itself!

[gwa]

at least they didnt kill the wrong guy eh?

[Ennayess]

I don't know what to say about this. Its fucking shocking. How can this be happening? Beechwood school which Robert Green talks about is literally over the back wall from my parents house.

This is fucked!

[hackman]

robert green is a hero for risking his safety in exposing this
hopefully people aren't stupid enough to not pay attention

and what do you mean gwa?

[gwa]

England and the tube shooting 7/7 buisness etc

was a shit joke

[AntlionUK]

also wasn't the last guy we hanged innocent?

[hackman]

lol theres indisputable proof that high up politicians, including this evil bitch, the lord advocate for scotland


is covering up for a pedophile ring involving many prominent people (police, judges, lawyers)

the arrest of robert green for doing nothing wrong except to expose these criminals, thereby proving that the scottish government is rotten to the core

and only Ennayess has an opinion? shocking

[hackman]

heres the full video download, bits keep getting removed from youtube, i wonder why

http://www.mediafire.com/?jzojjiddu2y





First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out for me.

[Ennayess]

i know3 facebook groups are usually a farce but http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wal ... 0572835068

[badger]

first i've heard about any of this and still need to read through that scottishlaw blog but this is absolutely fucked

really hope something gets done about this

[hackman]

nice mate! the wheels are gathering momentum....

[hackman]

first i've heard about any of this and still need to read through that scottishlaw blog but this is absolutely fucked

really hope something gets done about this

the lack of media coverage speaks volumes........

these scum are going down, soooon!

[HamCrescendo]

This is really interesting, and shocking.


Is there another side to the story? Any evidence against what he's suggesting? I don't like to commit to the ramblings of men with projectors until I've heard both sides, but the other side simply seems to be complete silence.

[faust.dtc]

I watched the talk he gave and I was very shocked at what was being claimed and the fact that this can happen and go unchallenged without fear of being silenced, imprisoned or an have and attemp on the life of the person exposing the story.

An accusation has been made, concerning those in high authority and true or not a fair investigation has to be allowed to take place regardless of the position of the people said to be involved. Surely if these allegations are true there would be some arm of the law who would be able to intervene against those that are accused.

If they are innocent of what is accused then they should have no worries about an inquiry going ahead. It may damage reputations but as im sure those in the law business know innocent until proven guilty right? To not allow a fair hearing is an abuse of power and shows that facts are trying to be hidden.

How do people in this position, or people in general join a paedophile ring anyway? How do you expose to someone you like abusing children and find out that they enjoy it also. I dont undertand how groups of people can be brought together for such a vile thing. (Thats rhetorical by the way)

[hackman]

This is really interesting, and shocking.


Is there another side to the story? Any evidence against what he's suggesting? I don't like to commit to the ramblings of men with projectors until I've heard both sides, but the other side simply seems to be complete silence.

the only argument i've come across is that:

Only one witness, who without being prejudiced suffers from down syndrome.
And a mother who, didn't believe her at first but then did and was then sanctioned under the mental health act.
I used to work in that profession and it's so hard to get someone sanctioned, no matter how powerful you are.
And then we have Robert Green, the so-called campaigner leading the investigation into the Hollie Greig case.
He made a leap of faith, believes her.. and then prints up leaflets accusing people as if it's confirmed fact they're pedophiles, accusing people of covering it up, which quite rightly is against the law, so he was arrested.

but this argument skips over all the legal documentation that green has
also the completely sane diagnosis from an alternative physician for the mother

[gnome]

heres the full video download, bits keep getting removed from youtube, i wonder why

http://www.mediafire.com/?jzojjiddu2y





First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak out for me.

Downloading becuase im to lazy to read

[hackman]

^^ let me know your thoughts


heres an anti robert green article for those who are interested (does not hold much weight for me as again it doens't take into account the documented evidence green has):

Robert Green
by Anna Raccoon on February 17, 2010

A frisson of excitement ran through the blogosphere late last night as news of Robert Green’s arrest in Aberdeen spread.

The facts as they first appeared seemed electrifying, a legal advisor prevented from going about his business by a Scottish legal conspiracy? Grist to the blogosphere mill.

A little digging reveals more froth on this than a pint of Guinness.

Robert Green is not a legal advisor. He is a lay advisor, journalist and broadcaster. I have about my person a copy of a letter he wrote in January 2010 where he admits that he is a lay advisor when addressing the Mental Welfare Commission of Scotland. Copies of that letter freely available to anyone who is interested.

Robert Green, although a Shropshire man, is intending to stand as an independent candidate in the Aberdeen South ward in the forthcoming General Election. As a journalist and broadcaster he would be more than aware of the value of a good ’story’. Indeed, he has been touring the country giving a series of talks regarding his research into sexual abuse in the Aberdeen area. He should be more than aware of the laws of defamation and would definitely be aware of the difference between the standard of proof required in a civil case and that required for a criminal case.

Mr Green was allegedly intending to hand out pamphlets that claimed there was a conspiracy to pervert the course of justice on the part of some very senior legal and political figures in Scotland.

There are those who say that in the interests of ‘free speech’ anybody should be allowed to say anything they please at whatever time, based on whatever idea pops into their head. I don’t subscribe to that view, nor does the oft quoted Article 10 of the European Convention of Human Rights. ‘Freedom of Expression’ as it is known there is a qualified right. Qualified as John Stuart Mills always intended, by the harm principle. You don’t have the right to defame, or harm, individuals by your free speech.

Child abuse is possibly the most incendiary accusation that can be levelled against anyone today, and particular care should be taken before making it. Robert Green was allegedly about to level that accusation against senior political and legal figures. We should perhaps look at the basis on which he felt entitled to make that accusation before assuming a conspiracy to silence him.

The young woman involved – and I don’t propose to name her, for reasons I will explain later – has claimed for several years that she was sexually abused by a group of men connected to her father in Aberdeen. The medical evidence apparently corroborates this, and I have no difficulty in believing her. It is a sad fact of life that many girls with Down’s syndrome are both tactile and highly sexed, an unfortunate combination in highly vulnerable individuals, and as such they are disproportionately represented amongst the tragic list of those who suffer child abuse. I don’t make those comments in any sense of ‘excusing’ the men involved, it is for adults to make responsible decisions, but in sad acceptance of the fact that yes, she probably was abused. In my experience, parents of children with Down’s syndrome are only too aware of the dangers, and take extra precautions to make sure that their children are safe.

The allegations of abuse were investigated by Grampian police, at a senior level, and the young woman received compensation from the criminal injuries fund following evidence from a Grampain detective inspector who described her as “a truthful witness to the best of her ability and an entirely innocent victim”. She received £13,500 which is the tariff payment for such cases. The evidential test is on the civil standard, namely the balance of probabilities. There is no requirement for corroboration.

The fact that she received compensation ‘as an innocent victim of violence’ under circumstances where no corroboration was required, cannot, under any stretch of the imagination be taken as proof that her allegations as to who had carried out the abuse would form credible or reliable evidence to carry out a criminal prosecution. The fact that Grampian police are not undertaking any prosecution of individuals named by this girl, where they have neither corroboration nor reliable evidence cannot be taken to be a conspiracy to pervert the course of justice – it is rather more a conspiracy to assert the course of justice.

Do you really want a society where you can find yourself labelled as a child abuser and forced to stand trial in many months time on the basis of an uncorroborated claim from a witness who can only tell the truth ‘to the best of her (diminished) ability’ – is that really the cause you are championing when you demand that those she has named stand trial?

Because there is another factor in this saga. Her Mother. The woman that Robert Green says was:

“assaulted and rendered unconscious by a group of assailants as she was about to enter her home. When she came to she found herself in Aberdeen Mental Institution and informed she was mentally ill”

We know from Robert Green’s letter to the Scottish Mental Welfare Commission that the Mother was ’sectioned’ in common parlance. We do not know what metal illness she may or may not have suffered from, nor who these alleged ‘assailants’ were – though we can surmise that they were in fact a community psychiatric nurse and a doctor, we can surmise that because otherwise the receiving officer at the mental institution would also have to be part of this ‘conspiracy’ if he were to receive a comatose tranquilised patient from any old gang of assailants. Since this occurred some 10 years before Robert Green wrote to the mental health commission we can also surmise that despite his alarmist language which reaches out to every tin foil hat reader in the universe that there may indeed have been sound reasons fro tranquilising her for the good of her health. I am not saying that this is so, merely that we actually have no evidence to the contrary.

So, we have a vulnerable mentally disabled girl who has almost certainly been sexually abused, by her Father amonst others, we have a Mother who has suffered such mental trauma at being made aware of her ex-husbands deeds that we are reasonably sure that she was taken to a mental hospital for her own good – and we have a prospective parliamentary candidate who thinks nothing of picking these two up and driving them half way across the country – from Cheshire to Bristol – in order to publicise his belief that the police should be prosecuting senior political figures, without corroborating evidence, of a heinous crime.

Enter the Scottish legal system, who in their ham fisted way, decide to start issuing injunctions to everyone who even dares to mention the matter – thus ensuring that the blogosphere is alive with pictures and identifying details of a young girls sexual life.

There are many unedifying figures hanging around child abuse cases. This is not the first case to attract faux legal advisers with a brief case full of pamphlets who spend their days and nights on-line discussing the intricacies of the latest child abuse. Nor will Robert Green be the first such who fancied his chances as a politician.

I don’t intend to name the young woman because if there is anything which comes close to the obscenity of child abuse, it is the abuse of a child which takes place when the self righteous decide to use her name and face to publicise themselves in the name of a variation of ‘free speech’ that they would be the first to decry if it were turned on them or in the name of a demand for criminal prosecution on such flimsy evidence – not that she was abused, but who had abused her, note – that the blogosphere would implode if there was any suggestion that Robert Green’s prosecution should rest on such evidence.

Grrrrr!