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this is the Production forumSTEALTH wrote:What a ridiculous thing to say !plankton wrote:If someone tells you how to do it won't that just cheapen the whole thing
I think that's something you should try to figure out for yourself
How will someone saying 'use a square wave, mate' cheapen anything - what will it cheapen ?
I think you should change your name from plankton to plank, mate !
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ah yeah, thought this was actually in the production forum sorry - shouldnt have so many browsers up at oncethrenody wrote:Will wrote:good tutorial
maybe we should have a sticky with all the best production advice and useful info in?
Check the production forum. Plenty tips to be had there.
there should be a production sticky with this stuff in though
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My best advice to you is stick to synthesis for the time being, as pitching down samples will introduce other audible 'artifacts' to the sounds (to do with the aliasing and resolution of the sample), which will require further filtering to eliminate - unless you can set a higher sampling rate to get around this.
Pretty much all my bass sounds are sourced straight from an instrument (be it a Bass Station or synth plugin) rather than a sample for this reason.
Well, let's not also forget how Junglists get those sub bass rumbles - with Sine Waves, although they have less 'presence' in a mix (so may have to be mixed higher or compressed a little more), because of their lack of harmonics.
And yes, stacking the sound is a very good way of fattening things up, but you need to be careful it's not overdone - usually one additional patch with more harmonic content about an octave above the bassline is enough, possibly set to a slightly lower volume so it doesn't drown out other elements, although this very much depends on what sound you're aiming to get.
It can be fun to mess with the tuning intervals of the second patch, so it harmonises with the bassline, as this can lead to interesting chorusing effects.
These are fairly universal rules that can be applied to most genres of dance music.
Pretty much all my bass sounds are sourced straight from an instrument (be it a Bass Station or synth plugin) rather than a sample for this reason.
Well, let's not also forget how Junglists get those sub bass rumbles - with Sine Waves, although they have less 'presence' in a mix (so may have to be mixed higher or compressed a little more), because of their lack of harmonics.
And yes, stacking the sound is a very good way of fattening things up, but you need to be careful it's not overdone - usually one additional patch with more harmonic content about an octave above the bassline is enough, possibly set to a slightly lower volume so it doesn't drown out other elements, although this very much depends on what sound you're aiming to get.
It can be fun to mess with the tuning intervals of the second patch, so it harmonises with the bassline, as this can lead to interesting chorusing effects.
These are fairly universal rules that can be applied to most genres of dance music.
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basically you can use a triangle, square, saw tooth and others... just add a 4 pole low pass filter to get rid of any higher pitch tones in the wave.
then assign a master filter and away you go. everyone uses a slightly differant combonation of initial waves you just have to experiment and keep the stuff you like. you'll soon develop your own style of making base which is so complex no one will be able to copy. a lot of the originality comes from the processing you apply be it reverb flange or anything else. it all makes your sound original.
i just finished my first dubstep tune and i'm gonna post it soon, i love it and it sounds like no other. the samples i use are from a dvd no one else has ever sampled which all helps to make the sound my own. if someone walked you right through the bass sound development technique youd end up making bass that sounded similar and that isnt going to help dubstep to keep original and ever evolving... good luck man and smoke lots a ganja...
then assign a master filter and away you go. everyone uses a slightly differant combonation of initial waves you just have to experiment and keep the stuff you like. you'll soon develop your own style of making base which is so complex no one will be able to copy. a lot of the originality comes from the processing you apply be it reverb flange or anything else. it all makes your sound original.
i just finished my first dubstep tune and i'm gonna post it soon, i love it and it sounds like no other. the samples i use are from a dvd no one else has ever sampled which all helps to make the sound my own. if someone walked you right through the bass sound development technique youd end up making bass that sounded similar and that isnt going to help dubstep to keep original and ever evolving... good luck man and smoke lots a ganja...
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Sharing is caring... To with-hold knowledge is to betray it.sek [espionage] wrote:for real.. whats the point of a production forum if no one wants to share info.autonomic wrote:I think it's called sharingplankton wrote:If someone tells you how to do it won't that just cheapen the whole thing
I think that's something you should try to figure out for yourself![]()
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Try also running your basses through an analogue modeled compressor. Automate volume for more saturation color.
PSPs MixBass is one of my fav plugins for adding that grimey coloration.
PSPs MixBass is one of my fav plugins for adding that grimey coloration.

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yeah 1st post
i use my novation xiosynth which has basic sine wave lo passed, then the filter is routed to the MW which is played in live over the beats, then you can edit the tits outa ur performance in the controler lane in logic or whateva and get it tight.
works a treat. obv as it's a midi instrument [physical rather than vst] it has to be bounced in real time, which is cool cos you can bounce one version 'as in' [played as you programmed/played/edited] then bounce some more version fiddling with LFOs, portamento and envelope filter modulation, giving you lots of options when it comes to chopping for the final edit.
yeah
works a treat. obv as it's a midi instrument [physical rather than vst] it has to be bounced in real time, which is cool cos you can bounce one version 'as in' [played as you programmed/played/edited] then bounce some more version fiddling with LFOs, portamento and envelope filter modulation, giving you lots of options when it comes to chopping for the final edit.
yeah
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