Song Structure

alias · Post by **alias** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:03 pm

Alright people. Making some tunes at the minute, hip hop atm but dubstep on the way. I was wondering what the general structure for dstep was? Cheers for your time. Alias.

konehed · Post by **konehed** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:15 pm

i try to stick with beginning, middle and end.

alias · Post by **alias** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 8:22 pm

Nice for the comment

Rob H · Post by **Rob H** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:13 pm

just listen

threnody · Post by **threnody** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 9:15 pm

Obviously each tune will develop and require different layouts and the only strict rule is keep your phrases built in 16 bar blocks.....

Maybe to get started try

16/32 bar intro
64 bar main body 1
16 bar breakdown
49 bar main body 2
16 bar outro

switch up the 1st 16 of the 2nd main body (chopped beat, varied bass??)
Keep adding and subtracting the elements...

Have fun.

7 below · Post by **7 below** » Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:27 pm

threnody wrote: 16/32 bar intro
64 bar main body 1
16 bar breakdown
49 bar main body 2
16 bar outro

Nooo! Don't speak the secret formula!

threnody · Post by **threnody** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 5:10 pm

Don't worry i didn't reveal the pre-bridge...post-chorus....macro recapitulation or Looping middle 12 sections so our careers are safe.....

Obviously it isn't your sections it's what you with them that counts!

struggle · Post by **struggle** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:47 pm

just fuck with it until it has a nice flow. nothing set in stone, no formula.

misk · Post by **misk** » Wed Jan 31, 2007 11:37 pm

id say listen to some tunes you like and follow a similar structure. Or, think of a story to tell and use a different, unusual structure to tell it.

just some thoughts.

ozols man · Post by **ozols man** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 12:04 am

oooh id be careful with song structures and dance music love... dont want to start getting pidgeon holed as experimetal and abstract n shit like that. intro middle outro is the way the lord intended

municiple · Post by **municiple** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:12 am

Death to structure.

blk plague · Post by **blk plague** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 2:18 am

ozols man wrote:oooh id be careful with song structures and dance music love... dont want to start getting pidgeon holed as experimetal and abstract n shit like that. intro middle outro is the way the lord intended

real talk.

struggle · Post by **struggle** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 3:14 am

imo, if it's a mellow/moody type number it's best to be careful with the structure. make sure it flows well. if it's got more of a inyerface/crazy vibe then sometimes it sounds good to toss some of the structure out the window. i think that can make shit more interesting.

when it comes down to it, make what sounds good to you...then ask for feedback about structure, etc.

metalboxproducts · Post by **metalboxproducts** » Thu Feb 01, 2007 9:51 am

7 below wrote:
threnody wrote: 16/32 bar intro
64 bar main body 1
16 bar breakdown
49 bar main body 2
16 bar outro
Nooo! Don't speak the secret formula!

You'd be amazed at how helpfull adhering to a simple thing like that is when writing a song/track. It basicly becomes the canvas on which you piant.

OR SOMETHING

deamonds · Post by **deamonds** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:39 am

my tracks tend 2 have my own brand of structure to them, i feel this gives them originality and stops them from following the crowd, although MBP, i have used this structure on several remixes

j_j · Post by **j_j** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:17 pm

LOL
dont set out a song strucure then fill it in..
how the fuck are you supposed to geta style from that ?
unless u want linear mirror image tunes..

lucky_strike · Post by **lucky_strike** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:24 pm

ummm,

every 1 of my tracks is different!!!!!

the way it should b!

obiwan · Post by **obiwan** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 3:10 pm

It's not that simple, should be slightly different for each song. I theenk

8 BAR SWITCH 8 BAR SWITCH 8 BAR SWITCH!!!!!!!!!!

Sharmaji · Post by **Sharmaji** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 5:31 pm

give the DJ's something (clear. obvious. 16-32 bars long) to mix in and out of, and build a breakdown/drop for a really obvious build/release of energy.

other than that, the middle's up for grabs.

two oh one · Post by **two oh one** » Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:49 pm

TeReKeTe wrote:give the DJ's something (clear. obvious. 16-32 bars long) to mix in and out of, and build a breakdown/drop for a really obvious build/release of energy.

other than that, the middle's up for grabs.

This seems like the best thing to do. Big, long intro. Just drums, percussion and sparse bass. Throw in a few of your signature sounds, so people recognise what track's sliding into the mix...

Do what you like inbetween, but a breakdown is always good because they can always drop something else in at that spot if they like.

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