Do any of you guys dedicate days to jus sound design ?

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Do any of you guys dedicate days to jus sound design ?

Post by Jeffro-Basstrap » Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:01 pm

Ive preety got everything on lockdown track making whys, jus need to further my sound design, do any of you guys make time to get different sounds or jus go alonng doing it track by track ?

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Post by Metzo » Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:15 pm

Hey!
Ye I do this from time to time, its good to learn the ins and outs of a particular synth. Once you learn the synth, you can build up your own patches, so you can bring up a patch in a track instantly, instead of making it from scratch each time u need a new synth sound, and u can also adjust the patch to suit the track your working on etc... (Presets are usually pretty shit depending on what synth your using. I hardly ever use just a preset, I sometimes find a preset I like and tweek the sound, but usually I make the sound from scratch myself)
Deffo do this dude! its well worth it for knowledge of synthesis, and also it can help with your workflow when your feeling inspired etc....

Edit - I do it track by track aswell tho, but this can come in very handy if there's a sound you want that you've already made ;)

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Post by Metzo » Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:37 pm

It can also help the dreaded 'Writers Block' :2:
Fingers crossed, I haven't had that in a while lol.
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Post by 3za » Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:41 pm

yeah i do. just don't spend like two hours profecting one sound. work really fast and save very often. so then you can open them up when making tracks and you can get them just right once the tune is done. i try to make adout 10-30 patchs in about a hour sesh.
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Post by Basic A » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:11 am

I spent a good 2-3 weeks on a patch onetime... glad I did really...

Its fun man, slap a rcorder on your master channel and go nuts... you dont have to be sneible, everything can be diced up and fit it later, youll get anything from crazy persussion/incidentals to full blow synth pathces...

Always, alwyas gotta be experimenting, doesnt always mean your making anytihng your ever gonnna use, but, youll get somewhere, and learn alot.
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Post by 3za » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:18 am

Basic A wrote:I spent a good 2-3 weeks on a patch onetime... glad I did really...
did you work on anything eles in that time? i think if i did that i would go crazy.
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Post by Basic A » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:22 am

3za wrote:
Basic A wrote:I spent a good 2-3 weeks on a patch onetime... glad I did really...
did you work on anything eles in that time? i think if i did that i would go crazy.
Define work?

I mean, I tweaked the patch in free time accross that time span...

Yeah, palyed wth sound alot mroe throughout, but, Id o that connstantly lol, rarely am I ever actually working on a concrete track, those only ocme to me once every couple weeks, in between its mixes and random daw mucking, lol.
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Post by Project_B » Sat Mar 20, 2010 12:52 am

I've just spent about 6 months doing nothing but sound design and some drum programming.


Time to make some fookin tracks. Watch this space. :wink:
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Post by chewie » Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:02 pm

Just spent the last 3 hours making patches in omnisphere love doing that shit 8)

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Post by abZ » Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:29 pm

Honestly I don't think I have ever even saved a patch before :lol: Not saying there is anything wrong with working like that tbh I probably should just have a day of making patches sometime. I usually just want to make tunes when I am in the studio tho.

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Post by deadly_habit » Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:36 pm

yes. on days i'm having writers block or just coming up with simple little loops i tend to make drum kits and loops and new synth patches or practice new fx chains or techniques

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Post by MimikOctopus » Sat Mar 20, 2010 3:43 pm

Sound design is why I love dubstep so much. Personally I prefer to only use my own sounds, aside from drums, I use samples. But making sounds is the most fun for me personally.

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Post by nitz » Sat Mar 20, 2010 4:35 pm

abZ wrote:Honestly I don't think I have ever even saved a patch before :lol: Not saying there is anything wrong with working like that tbh I probably should just have a day of making patches sometime. I usually just want to make tunes when I am in the studio tho.
Mannn, same here, anti got time to save patchs when am on a rool ! :P
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Post by gravity » Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:54 pm

occasionally i do, but normally i do sound design as the track requires. often i end up with sounds i dont use that way, which get saved and recycled if possible.

i find pure sound design sessions tend to be a bit directionless though, i find it much better when i have a vague idea of what i am trying to achieve, rather than just buggering about with noises.

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Post by dantini » Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:38 pm

gravity wrote:occasionally i do, but normally i do sound design as the track requires. often i end up with sounds i dont use that way, which get saved and recycled if possible.

i find pure sound design sessions tend to be a bit directionless though, i find it much better when i have a vague idea of what i am trying to achieve, rather than just buggering about with noises.
this. i'm currently trying to make patches from scratch & i find it hard to just make summat out of nothing. i'm not good enough at sound design yet to be able to whip up a great synth or bass sound from the air. i need a bit of direction & even then i may not get the sound i want for a long time if i even do get there. but i'll stumble across a few sounds in the meantime that i can save for later. a couple of weeks ago i had a major pc crash which put me out of music production for about a month. it had been about 3 months before the crash that i had continuously worked on music so the time off somewhat killed the roll i was on. so i suppose i'm still trying to find my feet atm.

on a related note, does anyone have great tips & tutorials for learning & improving on sound design from their own experience? i'm sure a lot of people who are reading this thread aren't sound design masters & any advice we can find is greatly appreciated. everyone has their own way of sound designing so it would be interesting to see the different techniques.
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Post by djake » Sat Mar 20, 2010 8:41 pm

never!

i spend alot of time just fucking about thou, like today all ive done is play notes on my keyboard and fuck with FM8.

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Post by grasseffect » Sat Mar 20, 2010 9:22 pm

I do, actually. Not days, but sometimes it's good if you have a writers block, to just do some preparations for coming tunes. Saves me a lot of time.

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Post by stappard » Sat Mar 20, 2010 11:42 pm

I'll only spend time on sound design if the tracks almost done and I feel like its a good one. Completely kills the vibe if you're spending too long on 'sound design' when you're trying to get a track down.

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Post by deadly_habit » Sun Mar 21, 2010 1:40 am

see the joys of having hardware... when my pc was dead and i was jobless to repair it i spent days just building patches on my synths and sampling and tweaking shit on my gear till i had a sequencer avail again. why i'm grabbing an old floppy based midi hardware sequencer for live pa and if that ever happens again

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Post by nowaysj » Sun Mar 21, 2010 10:25 am

Prolly 90 percent no. I do sometimes go off the deep end with a sound or a loop, usually more than a synth patch, but a synth patch with fx and all kinds of manipulation. The product of that will go to wave, for further potential use. Often time those sounds/loops are so rich they can't work with something else, and yet are not full enough to hold up a track on their own, thus ending up in a dusty folder.

Usually make sounds as they are required. I'm no great synthesist, though, so I usually spend a lot of time working on actual sounds as I'm working on beats. But for me, I start totally fresh each time, no template files, no template samples, synths, etc.

In the past I usually started with a drum beat, but lately I've been starting with sound design, to make a pad or a bass, and then building up into drums from there. Seems to be working better for me.

If you bring a couple of elements together, they'll usually dictate a third element which dictates a fourth, so on and so forth. The sounds control my beats.
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