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Any point in writing dubstep in 6/8 ?

Post by Hellomadame » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:48 am

Doing musical homework for college and asked myself that since dubstep is more a kind of 4/4 counted in 2 would it be pertinent to write dubstep in 6/8 or would it mess with all the dj mixing process ?

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Re: Any point in writing dubstep in 6/8 ?

Post by green plan » Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:02 am

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Re: Any point in writing dubstep in 6/8 ?

Post by Hurtdeer » Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:51 am

make the music first man, the djs can deal with it later :)

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Re: Any point in writing dubstep in 6/8 ?

Post by Mad_EP » Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:14 pm

Sharmaji wrote:
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I don't do a lot of dubstep, but I've done some hiphop tracks in 5/4, 7/4 and 11/4.... Probably not the most friendly of time signatures, but they were written in the manner that they needed to exist. So be it.

As a DJ, I can vouch that if a tune is hot ... there is always a way to figure out how to drop it in the mix. The hotter the track, the more effort I am willing to put into making it work in a set.
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Re: Any point in writing dubstep in 6/8 ?

Post by logic pro » Thu Apr 22, 2010 12:42 pm

Mad EP wrote:
Sharmaji wrote:
Sub Swara with the instant & inevitable pwnage.

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I don't do a lot of dubstep, but I've done some hiphop tracks in 5/4, 7/4 and 11/4.... Probably not the most friendly of time signatures, but they were written in the manner that they needed to exist. So be it.

As a DJ, I can vouch that if a tune is hot ... there is always a way to figure out how to drop it in the mix. The hotter the track, the more effort I am willing to put into making it work in a set.
that is just triplets and a normal 4/4 the subswara one.
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Re: Any point in writing dubstep in 6/8 ?

Post by symmetricalsounds » Thu Apr 22, 2010 1:42 pm

tune in my sig is 6/8, first time i written something that isn't 4/4. in retrospect not sure how much point there was doing it that way, i dunno really. i might give it a go again.

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Post by mc wayne » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:33 pm

i was one of the first (if not very first) to do dubstep in the 6/8 time, it's only because im not signed that you didn't hear it. anyway, on renoise I had the LPM number 9. and 192 lines I think it was with a 2 gap space instead of 4.
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Re: Any point in writing dubstep in 6/8 ?

Post by Genevieve » Thu Apr 22, 2010 3:40 pm

When I first started making music seriously, I was 16.. Vocalist in a Dillinger Escape Plan'esque band. Nothing we did was in 4/4 and nothing we did had one time signature all the way through. I couldn't play guitar or drums back then but I had a big hand in composition/arrangement and got a natural feel for odd time signatures.

When I started producing electronic music (late 19, about to turn 20), I really stopped caring about time signatures all together so every time I started producing tunes, I thought they were in 4/4 (I 'wrote' melodies in my head) without counting them, but as soon as I noticed I had to change the number of lines in the pattern of Renoise, I noticed I was writing in 6/8, 5/4, 13/4, 7/4, etc. Even switching time signatures after a number of bars.

What I'm saying is: just make the music that feels good to you and don't be tied down by numbers, be it BPM or time signature. If a song sounds 'right' in 6/8, that's all the 'point' you need, no?
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Re: Any point in writing dubstep in 6/8 ?

Post by Sharmaji » Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:30 pm

6/8 IS (or rather, CAN BE FELT AS) 4/4 with triplets. it really is that easy.

eskmo's been running a tune in 7/4 lately that is just devastating dancefloors. pure sex appeal.

and tron is pretty much a 6/8 joint. just write in 4/4 and phrase/quantize in 6th, 12th, and 24th notes instead of quarters, 8ths, and 16ths.
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Re: Any point in writing dubstep in 6/8 ?

Post by symmetricalsounds » Thu Apr 22, 2010 5:51 pm

Sharmaji wrote: just write in 4/4 and phrase/quantize in 6th, 12th, and 24th notes instead of quarters, 8ths, and 16ths.
see i think with my tune i did the opposite of that, written in 6/8 but ends up sounding like 4/4 because of where i've placed hits.

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Re: Any point in writing dubstep in 6/8 ?

Post by BLAHBLAHJAH » Thu Apr 22, 2010 6:01 pm

If you can make a gem of a track with dodgy times etc, you're essentially guaranteeing that some DJ isn't going to try and ruin it by over mixing it with another track. Think of it as a vaccination against being mixed, and as a result the whole track will be played 'as is'. DJs from what I gather like a simple life; they get cheers and respects just for their choice in vinyls primarily, not what they do with them (from observations at nightclubs)

Anyway time signatures are somewhat of an illusion... Loads of dubstep uses phasing tricks that are only herded into 4/4 via the drums anyway...
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Re: Any point in writing dubstep in 6/8 ?

Post by yamaz » Thu Apr 22, 2010 7:33 pm

Which eskmo track?
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Re: Any point in writing dubstep in 6/8 ?

Post by assault » Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:30 pm

Not dubstep as such, but Matrix's 'Convoy' switches to 6/8 towards the end of the track. The switch used to kill it at Metalheadz!


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Re: Any point in writing dubstep in 6/8 ?

Post by Hurtdeer » Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:28 am

yamaz wrote:Which eskmo track?

lands and bones. big tune


i released a couple of tracks that switch from 4/7 to 7/7 on twenty twelve last year. time signatures are fun

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Re: Any point in writing dubstep in 6/8 ?

Post by dddemain » Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:00 pm

Don't suppose anyone could explain time signatures?

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Re: Any point in writing dubstep in 6/8 ?

Post by staticcast » Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:07 pm

Hurtdeer wrote:i released a couple of tracks that switch from 4/7 to 7/7 on twenty twelve last year. time signatures are fun
Umm, 4/7? Is that even possible?
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