FUKIN MINISTRY OF SOUND

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Re: FUKIN MINISTRY OF SOUND

Post by tomm » Tue May 04, 2010 8:37 pm

and if it isn't their thing that instantly invalidates their opinion and they shouldn't listen to dubstep?

grow up

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Re: FUKIN MINISTRY OF SOUND

Post by cosmic_surgeon » Tue May 04, 2010 8:37 pm

Dubstep is mine! I won't look cool as fuck dropping Mala and Shackleton into casual conversation if everyone knows who they are :wink:

Jokes aside, I prefer that the compilation is roughly representative of more than one aspect of the sound, and takes time to include the not so mainstream tunes aswell as the radio fodder. At least that way there are no misconceptions as to what dubstep is, but ultimately I question the motive behind the compilation itself: is it really necessary? What does it mean for the development of the sound itself? Nothing, I suspect - just that it's got to the point where someone knows they can turn a nice profit out of a branded comp CD in a big market.

I know I like discovering music without Ministry of Sound to point it out to me, it was part of the whole experience. Discovering Burial's "In McDonalds" through mates who I shared the era of my life with when the idea of being in McDonalds on a rotter of a comedown at 8am was something new and very real to us. It added another dimension to the experience, the fact that the music was transmitted from Burial, to my mates, to me - without the need of a bloke in a suit who didn't understand or care about any of our experiences playing middle man. It was a more intimate system of relations, which was advantageous in a lot of ways.

Each to their own I guess.
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Re: FUKIN MINISTRY OF SOUND

Post by tomm » Tue May 04, 2010 8:40 pm

cosmic surgeon wrote:without the need of a bloke in a suit who didn't understand or care about any of our experiences playing middle man.
aye, instead you got a really baked scottish guy being like LOL WTF THIS IS AWESOME

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Re: FUKIN MINISTRY OF SOUND

Post by kianm » Tue May 04, 2010 8:45 pm

tomm wrote:dude was nominated for a mercury music prize, he's had radio exposure and people do know about his music. get off of that high horse, champ. people are entitled to the chance to hear whatever music is out there. it's people like you that damage a scene more than the people that happily go about hearing what they want.
hows that? when im sayin that certain musics shud be kept underground, and out of the media's attention, inorder to keep it pure. i think if you went away and thought about it long enough and hard enough, youd realise that wat im sayin is fueled by a desire to keep the music i love alive and good, as opposed to to destroyin it.

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Post by Luke Yeah? » Tue May 04, 2010 8:46 pm

kianm wrote:no your right, but come on lets be real, if they really wanted to learn a bit more about 'dubstep' with a bit of research, they cud have discovered burial and listened to both of his albums, all in the space of like 3hours. i dont really think theyd care much too do that though
I got into dubstep, coincidentally through Burial via iTunes single of the week. At the time i was listening to such MOS discs and other general 'commercial' music. Going back to your original post, does this make me a prick?

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Post by Dark Reign » Tue May 04, 2010 8:47 pm

kianm wrote:fair enough, and in an ideal situation, we'd have a cd full loefah,distance, mala ect.. but thats not the case, and to be honestly im kinda glad because when it comes down to it WE HAVE BETTER MUSIC TASTE THAT YOUR AVERAGE JOE, straight.and i dont want everyone knowing about it. i like the fact that im the only person i know except my girl that listens to burial (and even then i show him to her), i just wish they wudnt expose everyone to such good music.
wow you are an elitist fuckhead, if you like a certain music then listen to it don't fuckin worry what other people are listening to. If you like the artists you shuld support them and show their music to other people not keep it to yourself and get mad when more people listen to it.

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Re: FUKIN MINISTRY OF SOUND

Post by kianm » Tue May 04, 2010 8:52 pm

i dont know you mate.all i know is that artists like burial for example dont come around very often, and i dont want a situation where every other trendys spewing his or any other 'artists' name. this is gona sound so unoriginal but i dont want certain musics to go 'mainstream" as it were, and in my eyes at least a ministry of sound compilation is the first step.

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Post by Dark Reign » Tue May 04, 2010 8:54 pm

kianm wrote: hows that? when im sayin that certain musics shud be kept underground, and out of the media's attention, inorder to keep it pure. i think if you went away and thought about it long enough and hard enough, youd realise that wat im sayin is fueled by a desire to keep the music i love alive and good, as opposed to to destroyin it.
So by your logic If an artist makes a tune and its heard by few people its pure but once the SAME EXACT TUNE gets popular its suddenly destroyed? Its the same fucking tune ffs. If producers didn't want their music to be heard they would not release it, give it to other DJs or even show it to anyone. Most people who make music do it so other people can hear their creation and get something from it.

Your view on music is greedy, selfish & elitist. You just want it all to yourself

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Re: FUKIN MINISTRY OF SOUND

Post by babylonburn » Tue May 04, 2010 8:56 pm

Keep it all on dubplate and never release any of it commercially otherwise youre a sell out maaaaaan :roll:

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Re: FUKIN MINISTRY OF SOUND

Post by kianm » Tue May 04, 2010 8:59 pm

Dark Reign wrote:
kianm wrote:fair enough, and in an ideal situation, we'd have a cd full loefah,distance, mala ect.. but thats not the case, and to be honestly im kinda glad because when it comes down to it WE HAVE BETTER MUSIC TASTE THAT YOUR AVERAGE JOE, straight.and i dont want everyone knowing about it. i like the fact that im the only person i know except my girl that listens to burial (and even then i show him to her), i just wish they wudnt expose everyone to such good music.
wow you are an elitist fuckhead, if you like a certain music then listen to it don't fuckin worry what other people are listening to. If you like the artists you shuld support them and show their music to other people not keep it to yourself and get mad when more people listen to it.
first of all fuck off. secondly, are you tryin to be stupid? this is my point, i HAVE tried to spread the word, be MOST people think its shit, which is the problem. please learn to read before you attack my arguement i explained this a few posts back.prick

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Re: FUKIN MINISTRY OF SOUND

Post by CollisionCourse » Tue May 04, 2010 8:59 pm

let me get this straight, your getting sore because your afraid some people that dont normally listen to your kind of dubstep, stuff which you somehow think is better than the rest, might listen to it because they play what is, in my opinion, a balanced (granted there are some shit tunes on it) dubstep compilation? sorry mate but you sound like a narrow minded idiot.

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Post by aleks zen » Tue May 04, 2010 9:02 pm

lol this thread is too joke. i dont think there is one producer out there who doesnt want their work exposed on a mass scale; i dont think there is ANYONE out there whos buss by accident.. too many ppl out here with romantic notions that someone like burial is some 'troubled soul who only cared about creating master pieces'.. im pretty sure he grinded just as hard as anyone to get his music out there, only difference is his hes alot more talented then alot of other producers hence why hes goten all the exposure he has
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Re: FUKIN MINISTRY OF SOUND

Post by kianm » Tue May 04, 2010 9:05 pm

CollisionCourse wrote:let me get this straight, your getting sore because your afraid some people that dont normally listen to your kind of dubstep, stuff which you somehow think is better than the rest, might listen to it because they play what is, in my opinion, a balanced (granted there are some shit tunes on it) dubstep compilation? sorry mate but you sound like a narrow minded idiot.
you think that the compilation is balanced.hahaha peace yeh you mug

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Re: FUKIN MINISTRY OF SOUND

Post by toreador » Tue May 04, 2010 9:05 pm

would have preferred if they'd gone on an apartheid flex and put the commercial shit on cd1 and the deep tunes on cd2 instead of mixing between the two, thats the whole benefit of having a double cd pack FFS. having said that some of the opinions expressed in this thread r unconstructive.

but it does pain me to see posters on the tube with names like digital mystikz, breakage, coki (separate lol) etc next to jakwob, doorly, mt eden etc but what can u do........

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Re: FUKIN MINISTRY OF SOUND

Post by Luke Yeah? » Tue May 04, 2010 9:05 pm

I think i understand the point the original poster is trying to make but feel he has got the wrong idea. Good music being shown to a large audience isn't the issue. The issue is poorly produced music being shown to the 'mainstream' and them then accepting this as the only style/sound/type etc of dubstep there is.

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Re: FUKIN MINISTRY OF SOUND

Post by babylonburn » Tue May 04, 2010 9:08 pm

Luke Yeah? wrote:I think i understand the point the original poster is trying to make but feel he has got the wrong idea. Good music being shown to a large audience isn't the issue. The issue is poorly produced music being shown to the 'mainstream' and them then accepting this as the only style/sound/type etc of dubstep there is.
But isnt the release also showing "good music to a large audience' AND "poorly produced music to the mainstream" at the same time?

I dont think i follow you....

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Re: FUKIN MINISTRY OF SOUND

Post by kianm » Tue May 04, 2010 9:09 pm

Luke Yeah? wrote:I think i understand the point the original poster is trying to make but feel he has got the wrong idea. Good music being shown to a large audience isn't the issue. The issue is poorly produced music being shown to the 'mainstream' and them then accepting this as the only style/sound/type etc of dubstep there is.
i agree with the second part, but dont you think is a bit of a waste for good music to be shown to a large audience if most of that audience is not goin to appreciate it?

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Re: FUKIN MINISTRY OF SOUND

Post by tomm » Tue May 04, 2010 9:10 pm

cause yeah, hearing something and not liking it is so much worse than having music you might like hidden from you

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Re: FUKIN MINISTRY OF SOUND

Post by Luke Yeah? » Tue May 04, 2010 9:13 pm

babylonburn wrote:
Luke Yeah? wrote:I think i understand the point the original poster is trying to make but feel he has got the wrong idea. Good music being shown to a large audience isn't the issue. The issue is poorly produced music being shown to the 'mainstream' and them then accepting this as the only style/sound/type etc of dubstep there is.
But isnt the release also showing "good music to a large audience' AND "poorly produced music to the mainstream" at the same time?

I dont think i follow you....
It is yes and in regards to this release it is up to the listener to decide what strand, if any, of dubstep most appeals to them. Idea of the compilation i guess. But as a general argument i feel my point is valid.

EDIT: Feel the context in which i made that argument is difficult to understand, apologies.
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Re: FUKIN MINISTRY OF SOUND

Post by Luke Yeah? » Tue May 04, 2010 9:13 pm

kianm wrote:
Luke Yeah? wrote:I think i understand the point the original poster is trying to make but feel he has got the wrong idea. Good music being shown to a large audience isn't the issue. The issue is poorly produced music being shown to the 'mainstream' and them then accepting this as the only style/sound/type etc of dubstep there is.
i agree with the second part, but dont you think is a bit of a waste for good music to be shown to a large audience if most of that audience is not goin to appreciate it?
But then there are those few who appreciate it...

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