Timbaland biting Dubstep?

tone.def · Post by **tone.def** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:02 pm

Tee2006 wrote:I'm more than comfortable with influences being taken from every direction but it seemed like mans were suggesting UK heads solely ripped off Timbaland. Timbaland ISNT US Hiphop and RnB. He's one man making music which fits into those US genres.

right, and Dr. Dre, Neptunes, Kanye West and RZA are NOT US hiphop and RnB either. they're just individual men making music which fits into those US genres.

hate recordings · Post by **hate recordings** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:06 pm

Marsyas wrote:thats low dude.

i can go much lower, believe that

tee2006 · Post by **tee2006** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:49 am

tone.def wrote:
right, and Dr. Dre, Neptunes, Kanye West and RZA are NOT US hiphop and RnB either. they're just individual men making music which fits into those US genres.

I really don't understand some people's impulses to twist people's words into totally irrelevant context just for the sake of an internet argument.

slowlygoingdeaf · Post by **slowlygoingdeaf** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:27 pm

its even got its own wikipedia article!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_Timba ... ontroversy

incyde · Post by **incyde** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:50 pm

either way though, whatever commercialized US producers want to take their influences from underground music, there's nothin you can do to prove or disprove where they get their ideas from. whats really important i think is that even though all the people in that audience maybe got a small taste of dubstep, most of them will never experience the greatness of a FWD party blowing up plastic people, or DMZ at mass. they will never experience the best, as everyone here has. that's something that the big commercial guys can never take and thats what matters to me. in london its real, its fresh and its raw. its people makin a sound that they know is good, not one thats developed for the masses.

crazydave · Post by **crazydave** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:55 pm

Innovative production is always good thing... throwing more ingredients into the melting pot that is popular music.

But MAYBE people wish he was more humble / thanked people / whatever. So it's a social faux pas, not a musical one.

And I for one couldn't care less about what musicians SAY in their free time. It's all about the output.

My 2p.

tone.def · Post by **tone.def** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:55 pm

people, it's JUST. . .A. . .BEAT! dubstep did NOT originate the half-step rhythm. christ. is it impossible to think a hip-hop producer would make a beat like that without knowing anything about "dubstep."

call the beat police!

tacospheros · Post by **tacospheros** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 11:40 pm

tone.def wrote:people, it's JUST. . .A. . .BEAT! dubstep did NOT originate the half-step rhythm.

exactly . it's just a beat. it's not even half-step. what makes it half step? it's just a tempo. tempos can be slowed down or sped up and all of a sudden the genre just changes? stop thinking in terms of genres, and who did things "first' BECAUSE WHO CARES ? why cant we just say it's all about beats and vibes and not label it this or that . everyone influences everyone

altho if timbaland knows about dubstep and isnt giving it its rightful props then thats pretty ghey

btw that tune "Acidjazzed Evening" is dope !

parson · Post by **parson** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:38 am

and for the sake of clarity when i said the half-step sound was reminiscent of uk underground music i was not saying that i think dubstep is about half-step

nobody can deny the fact that when dubstep blew up, the predominant sound was the half-step and that the most common element americans got from it was that slow ass beat

i know dubstep has all kinda beats yadda yadda yadda

-blade- · Post by **-blade-** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:14 am

when i heard up jumps the boogie for the very first time on the radio my thought was thats the first hip hop producer clearly inspired by d'nb.

dubplodocus · Post by **dubplodocus** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:39 am

wow, timbo is at it again def gunna mix this when it drops

geiom · Post by **geiom** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 9:51 am

i thought I replied to this before but it don't look like it posted....

All I can say is that "supa dupa fly" was recorded in about 1996 - there are beats on there and on everything else he has produced that roll just like dubstep.

I am sad about his attitude towards the finnish computer game thing but you can't knock timbalands skills really ...

K

merkin · Post by **merkin** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:32 pm

It is blatantly clear that quite a few of you are totally retarded.

Firstly, Timbaland is a merker. I very much doubt he even knows dubstep exists let alone feels the need to bite it.

Secondly, the whole concept of plagiarism in Hip-Hop is hysterical! There would be no Hip-Hop without plagiarism!

I saw man on here going mental over that 'Light up your spliff' dub (sorry don't know who did it), about how its the best thing since sliced bread (it was aaiight). That is blatant plagiarism of an old Bush Chemists joint from donkeys years ago, if you dont believe me I shall post up the track. Did'nt bother me though get me?

Lets face it, half of you lot are students who know very little about music. If you feel my tirade does not apply to you, then good.

I have also learnt over the past couple of weeks on this board that I should never, ever do a mashup because it means that I lack skill and creativity. Thank you Dubstep forum for enlightening me on the finer points of how to be a dj, I am forever in your debt.

**Kisses teeth**

Jubz · Post by **Jubz** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:03 pm

Someone needs a hug.

forensix (mcr) · Post by **forensix (mcr)** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:15 pm

Merkin wrote: I have also learnt over the past couple of weeks on this board that I should never, ever do a mashup because it means that I lack skill and creativity. Thank you Dubstep forum for enlightening me on the finer points of how to be a dj, I am forever in your debt.

**Kisses teeth**

Mash ups are sooo 2001

fubar · Post by **fubar** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:37 pm

that track he sampled was shit anyway

shonky · Post by **shonky** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:18 pm

forensix (mcr) wrote:
Merkin wrote: I have also learnt over the past couple of weeks on this board that I should never, ever do a mashup because it means that I lack skill and creativity. Thank you Dubstep forum for enlightening me on the finer points of how to be a dj, I am forever in your debt.

**Kisses teeth**
Mash ups are sooo 2001

Just noticed an ad on telly the other night for the Mashup album. Looked really lame surprisingly.

merkin · Post by **merkin** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:33 pm

Mash ups are sooo 2001

Typically waste comment.

ozols man · Post by **ozols man** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:44 pm

lol jokes thread, i was listening to some gatecrasher digital chill out album from wot seems to be quite a few years ago and what did i hear? a track that sounded exactly like a dubstep track except the melody was not so dark, the question is though, who really cares?

forensix (mcr) · Post by **forensix (mcr)** » Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:58 pm

Merkin wrote:
Mash ups are sooo 2001
Typically waste comment.

And coming on here insulting people and making huge generalisations isnt waste?

(btw the 2001 comment was a joke, but it must be difficult to have a sense of humour when your heads so full of musical knowledge)

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