Hidden Messages In Mass Market Music & Popular Culture

[djake]

LOL mate you're in shit now!

piston check out a guy called john harris. mind blowing

anyone that uses sail by aim is righteous!

bump, was gunna post this video but its hear already, the search function is kool

[gwa]

yeah it's a great video, EVERYONE MUSt HEAR IT

[djake]

too right, tryed explaining it too my dad...he just didnt beleive me

also.....

http://www.tpuc.org/



and for the lazy people out there that dont like clickin the mouse

http://www.tpuc.org/onlinevideos

[alien pimp]

LOL mate you're in shit now!

piston check out a guy called john harris. mind blowing

anyone that uses sail by aim is righteous!

bump, was gunna post this video but its hear already, the search function is kool

an absolutely must see! and must spread! all 5 parts!
it blows my mind to see the bbc5 logo on it

[alien pimp]

[tommatee]

[nousd]

Having watched the John Harris video,
just what is it that ninjas find mind-blowing about it?

[alien pimp]

Having watched the John Harris video,
just what is it that ninjas find mind-blowing about it?

what ninja said it's mindblowing?

[danoldboy]

The Capitalist Conspiracy

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=PTnaLcFhGzs

Essential for interested Ninja's.

[nousd]

^^
me
this
ds golden age

[alien pimp]

The Capitalist Conspiracy

http://www.youtube.com/watch#!v=PTnaLcFhGzs

Essential for interested Ninja's.

BIG find, i've never seen this before!
1972!!!

[alien pimp]

how about cannibal messages?
http://eifel65cannibals.ytmnd.com/

[NilsFG]

how about cannibal messages?
http://eifel65cannibals.ytmnd.com/

Some people have too much time on their hands

[magma]

I'm just bumping this because I saw Rihanna in concert last night and made a special effort to take stock of her set design and any symbolism used.

If anything she avioded clean geometric patterns altogether. The main symbolism used on stage were two giant stylised AK47s, a tank (again, stylised... sort of futuristic/industrial looking) , a graphic equaliser, giant speakers, a suspended cage for her dancers, cars and lots of ticker tape.

The only time she bordered on anything symbolic that this thread would be interested in was when she threw up the Rocafella diamond at the start of Run This Town. Oh and a video that played whilst she was changing costumes used the slogan "IS THIS REAL?".

Incidentally, she was alright. My girlfriend and her sister loved it, as did most of the audience. Compared to the support (Pixie Lott - awful, Tinchy Stryder - disappointing), she was great fun..... and fit.

[gwa]

hmm that's interesting, i guess they might not bother with concerts because it might be third party behind it. the videos and promotion is full of symbolism so you can't write her off because of that. jayz rhianna beyonce and gaga are quite blatent masons

[magma]

Just thought it was worth adding to the discussion.

[gwa]

i know, mate. didn't mean to sound like i was shooting you down

[dreamizm]

I'm just bumping this because I saw Rihanna in concert last night and made a special effort to take stock of her set design and any symbolism used.

If anything she avioded clean geometric patterns altogether. The main symbolism used on stage were two giant stylised AK47s, a tank (again, stylised... sort of futuristic/industrial looking) , a graphic equaliser, giant speakers, a suspended cage for her dancers, cars and lots of ticker tape.

The only time she bordered on anything symbolic that this thread would be interested in was when she threw up the Rocafella diamond at the start of Run This Town. Oh and a video that played whilst she was changing costumes used the slogan "IS THIS REAL?".

Incidentally, she was alright. My girlfriend and her sister loved it, as did most of the audience. Compared to the support (Pixie Lott - awful, Tinchy Stryder - disappointing), she was great fun..... and fit.

In her 'Hard' video, Rihanna is sitting on a purple tank with Mickey Mouse ears.

It may not be covert symbolism, but surely it feeds a wider narrative on 'war as entertainment'? You can't just attribute such striking imagery to 'art' or 'fashion'.

(I also thought themes of 'prisoners of war' and 'torture' were rife in Lady Gaga's 'Telephone' - esp where she dancing in the prison and it keeps switching to black and white CCTV camera. The first thing I thought of was the leaked photos of arab prisoners during the Iraq war. Is she trying to latently trivialise or denegrate the impact of these on our consciousness? I don't know).

[magma]

It may not be covert symbolism, but surely it feeds a wider narrative on 'war as entertainment'? You can't just attribute such striking imagery to 'art' or 'fashion'.

"Can't" is a bit confident, isn't it?

Weaponary has been part of pop imagery for a long, long time... "girls and guns" is always a sellable image. Fashionistas like Chanel make shoes with gun-shaped heels for Madonna to wear at award ceremonies, Guns n Roses have used all sorts of weaponary in stage shows... and guns are never far from hiphop - how many album titles have rappers brandishing guns?

She's just trying to look cool to teenage girls and sexy enough to guys that buy singles where she's singing on the chorus... I really don't think there's a lot more substance to it than that. In fact, attributing more substance gives her far too much credit - she's a fairly ephemeral popstar, not any kind of intellectual collossus that is capable of dictating what we think.... she just writes songs about fighting men and falling in love... stuff that girls like when they're at school.

Now if people tried to say Grace Jones, Erykah Badu or even Lauryn Hill were trying to change minds, I'd agree, but then it's obvious because they make it so... most people with views to promote don't see any reason to hide behind symbolism... they just come out and say it.

For a supposedly powerful organisation, the Masons are made out to be a bunch of frightened bunnies who are terrified of saying what they think in a world where most people are shouting what they think every second of the day on Twitter.

[gwa]

mickey mouse ears are used a lot in their symbolism. something to do with children being controlled. Beyonce wears them in the diner scene of telephone iirc

magma you need to research more on Masonic symbolism