I did not start this THREAD?

[serox]

** EDIT** I did not start this thread, can someone explain whats going on here?

Apologies to everyone in the thread:/ this is weird.

to start, my simple suggestion on how to create the divide would be for producers who've been released, be it Vinyl, CD, or digital, or artists who also run a label.

Tbh tho anyone can release something digitally, it means nothing at all to me.

[wirez]

to start, my simple suggestion on how to create the divide would be for producers who've been released, be it Vinyl, CD, or digital, or artists who also run a label.

Tbh tho anyone can release something digitally, it means nothing at all to me.

To be fair it shows a higher level of dedication if anything, at least it shows that these producers see their music as a business and are willing to invest into themselves as a product.
Also, there's always that argument that CD and vinyl just don't sell like they used to.
As you know, digital is the only way it's going forward now, you can argue otherwise, but it's only a selective amount of people who're still buying tangible forms of music, as much as this really sucks.

And look at the next generations, like they're going to give a fuck about vinyl (other than a selective few smart ones, I must stress otherwise I look like I have a completely bias opinion, which I don't), they grew up being worse than my generation in every aspect step by step. When I was a younger music was in a bad enough state, whereby if you wanted a Wiley track you got yourself on the internet and you searched for days until a shitty YouTube rip or something came up somewhere. Quality was irrelevant then, it was all about having that shit on your phone anyway.
I know it's not everybody's aim to make money from music... But the fact is if you're running a label and DO aim to make music, you need to know about these younger generations and target your music to that audience, and they're not in no vinyl shops... They barely exist anymore and who has time to flick through records when you could be out selling coke or something making some money.

I know there's a lot of generalisation in there and I know everybody has aims... But it's always going to remain true in music that if you get the younger ones on your side then you've got yourself a sturdier income, because generations below them will look up to the older generations and their music taste. ETC.

So yeh, well off topic to be honest, but I can't help but stress that digital distribution shouldn't be passed off as amateurs who can't release anything else. Fact is, digital distribution is as much a valid method of sale as tangible, times have changed and business follows the times.

[spkta]

i dont have anything to add, i just read your sig from lowpass...

thats awesome.

[wirez]

Erm, firstly how..? Secondly, why? You missed out the rest of the discussion which was just as important.

[deadly_habit]

to start, my simple suggestion on how to create the divide would be for producers who've been released, be it Vinyl, CD, or digital, or artists who also run a label.

Tbh tho anyone can release something digitally, it means nothing at all to me.

we all know that and you seem to have a dillusion vinyl release are much better why most of us lol when you say that
guess what i saw less from my vinyl release than my orig chart topping dnb beatport digital release i self mastered back in like 04

[spkta]

I thought of a couple things to add, felt like a douche for just popping in the thread to laugh at a sig.

On some other forums, Producers who aren't lets say... "nobody" have their names in bold bright colors

That way I can tell just by scrolling through the forums which threads are actually going to be worth reading.

These forums do seem to be running rampant with total forum noobs who can't use a search function
and for some reason (stand alone complex?) all want to know "how do i makes it wobble?"

on the other end, however, there are a lot of people that love to find these "How can I be like Daxcision?" threads
before a mod can shut them down and crap all over said noobs whole life.

Im getting off the point though. Perhaps there should be a section of the forum that only mods and producers have discussion
permission... I also like the idea of making a notable producers threads/posts visually distinguishable from other peoples...

Only problem is we know lots of notable producers like to run through these forums using aliases...
but I guess that's their issue if they don't want to help anyone..

Fancy Colors, Bold Font names for "Big Name" Producers... maybe mods could vote on it
I've seen several on here...

[2mb1o]

..but on the on the other hand, there are lots of people on this forum who have pretty advanced knowledge... but very rarely show up because of the ridiculous number of repeat threads. It doesn't seem to be the best use of resources.

Maybe we need a sub-forum with good tutorials, review or really technical threads ?

For instance something like "Legend4ry's sub bass tutorial" :
- with pictures
- with audio examples
- with good things to do and stuff to avoid

threads about : process a reece, layer snares, equing something, chords and scale, record a MC, bass trap, monitors placement ...
I know, it's basic but it could be helpfull

why not reviews about vsts and hardware.
If I like fabfilter volcano, a can write a test and tips, with audio example, for the dubstep context.

And when I have a technical problem, I'll like find someone to help me.
- My snare sounds flat after the pre-mastering, it was cool at the mixdown, check this ... my pre-mastering chain is this, with this kind of setting, how can I solve it ?
- ok, try to do that : bablabla threshold blablabla not with this sound at this time ... blabla

[Basic A]

I liked the idea when it was community rep or a quiz, ect... but yeah this went elitist... you cant judge people on shit like this.

[subindex]

[abZ]

Soon in these threads I could justify some Alpaca picture tbh. People getting overly excited about an idea that is NOT going to work.

[JBE]

I liked the idea when it was community rep or a quiz, ect... but yeah this went elitist... you cant judge people on shit like this.

Agreed. Reading through these DSF Advanced posts it went from being a simple concept that had some sense behind it, to complex and a way for more "elite" producers to boast their ego and wave it over everyone else like a flag.

It doesn't need to be so advanced. Keep the idea simple. It does make some sense to have a place where some of well seasoned veterans to lay out their knowledge to not only help other high level producers but to also help the beginners. The problem with the production forum is that you come in here expecting to learn about production from threads pertaining to producing questions, and a lot of times most threads are just random babbling or questions being asked for the 30th time.

Maybe make a couple sub forums for "Sound Design" and "General Discussion" to help keep the Production forum more about aspects of producing. I know sound design probably fits in with producing but I think something like that would help with keeping the, "How do I make this sound" threads in a specific place. First time I came into this forum I was expecting to see a lot of threads about the more technical sides of production like mixing and mastering. Once I started skimming through the topics it felt more like a, "Everything" type of forum. Which isn't really a big deal except when using the search function in the forum, unless you know what to search for, you're gonna end up with like 20 pages of possibilities filled with threads that tend to not have anything to do with what you are looking for but it just so happens that someone used one of the words you searched for. After visiting and reading through the 25th thread that ends up being a dead end, you just get sick of it and stop.

If you're going to make a DSF Advanced sub forum just keep it simple. Let the community rep people into it. Just give the moderators or maybe appoint a group of people to review the suggestion and have the final say on whether someone gets posting priviledge in the advanced forum.

[deadly_habit]

Soon in these threads I could justify some Alpaca picture tbh. People getting overly excited about an idea that is NOT going to work.

[serox]

wtf is going on here? I didn't start this thread?!

[serox]

Erm, firstly how..? Secondly, why? You missed out the rest of the discussion which was just as important.

I did not do this:/

[deadly_habit]

wtf is going on here? I didn't start this thread?!

you got mod powered for going off topic lol

[serox]

wtf is going on here? I didn't start this thread?!

you got mod powered for going off topic lol

I took the warning and stopped going off topic.

Now it looks like I have started a thread about some elitist internet squabble.

[nowaysj]

Dood, I don't know what happened to this thread, seems like it went into the blender and a few wild posts came out.

..but on the on the other hand, there are lots of people on this forum who have pretty advanced knowledge... but very rarely show up because of the ridiculous number of repeat threads. It doesn't seem to be the best use of resources.

Maybe we need a sub-forum with good tutorials, review or really technical threads ?

For instance something like "Legend4ry's sub bass tutorial" :
- with pictures
- with audio examples
- with good things to do and stuff to avoid

threads about : process a reece, layer snares, equing something, chords and scale, record a MC, bass trap, monitors placement ...
I know, it's basic but it could be helpfull

why not reviews about vsts and hardware.
If I like fabfilter volcano, a can write a test and tips, with audio example, for the dubstep context.

And when I have a technical problem, I'll like find someone to help me.
- My snare sounds flat after the pre-mastering, it was cool at the mixdown, check this ... my pre-mastering chain is this, with this kind of setting, how can I solve it ?
- ok, try to do that : bablabla threshold blablabla not with this sound at this time ... blabla

You've just described http://www.dancetech.com/index.cfm?loading=intro&skin=2 a great resource. haven't been there in a 9 or so years though.

[FSTZ]

probably pushed the "new topic button" instead of the "post reply" button

[wirez]

probably pushed the "new topic button" instead of the "post reply" button

Nah man because it was 2 posts from a previous thread and one of them was mine and I didn't copy and paste it in here, the other was Serox's and he didn't either... So it must have been the mods starting a new topic for us on a discussion we were having which was off topic... It's a shame though, it was quite a good discussion but the majority of it was missed from this thread...