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Post by batfink » Mon Feb 12, 2007 1:28 pm

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Post by nattyphysicist » Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:18 pm

The lower the frequency, the less you hear it and the more you feel it. All sound is pressure variation in the air. Above a certain frequency, most sound travels around the room directionally, bouncing off things, being absorbed, etc. Below that frequency, you can think of the sound more as changing the pressure in the entire room. It's more feeling that hearing.

But beware that the shape and volume of the room now comes into play as well as your speakers positions. You could very easily excite resonances in the room that will create bass that wasn't in the program material. A good rule of thumb is to have good dispersion in any room. Furniture, stuff on the wall, carpet will all help. The second thing is to play with the position of your subs if you can. If you have more than one, spread them out. Walk around the room and see if the bass is stronger in certain places. Try to get it the same everywhere.

Most of you already know this. My 2 cents.
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Post by kion » Mon Feb 12, 2007 8:21 pm

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Post by jackquinox » Tue Feb 13, 2007 12:26 am

All about the fundamental frequency of someones head then you can go all scanners on people.

As far as bass goes the frequency range on most speakers doesnt really go down that low anyways so there aint gonna be much going on down there.
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Post by -blade- » Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:36 am

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Post by echo wanderer » Tue Feb 13, 2007 6:52 am

KION wrote:Who knows about putting King Edwards spuds in suspended Hammocks. Dom does. And Unlikely. Top secret weapon.

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Post by konfusion » Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:36 am

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Post by resolved » Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:25 pm

my set up really struggles with some Mala tunes in particular... the bass on Bury Da Bwoy is nigh inaudible. sounds fine with the bass sweep above though. blah.

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Post by dom » Tue Feb 13, 2007 11:11 pm

KION wrote:Who knows about putting King Edwards spuds in suspended Hammocks. Dom does. And Unlikely. Top secret weapon.
Kion told me he has a secret allotment where he grows potatoes which he carves into models of his favourite dubstep producers. They keep him warm in his hammock at night.

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Post by kion » Wed Feb 14, 2007 5:28 pm

Dom wrote:
KION wrote:Who knows about putting King Edwards spuds in suspended Hammocks. Dom does. And Unlikely. Top secret weapon.
Kion told me he has a secret allotment where he grows potatoes which he carves into models of his favourite dubstep producers. They keep him warm in his hammock at night.

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Post by jtransition » Wed Feb 14, 2007 6:51 pm

If anyone has any specific bass questions i will try to answer them.

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Post by sek [espionage] » Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:05 pm

isn't dubstep's ultra low bass just a bit of an illusion?
the space and room giving leeway for the sub to stay low but also to move up into a more audible range? giving the perception of it being larger than life.
Lots of music has ultra low sub.. some miami bass I have shakes the room just as much as my dubstep however the clutter of the drums in the 80hz-150hz range interferes with that all encompassing bass experience dubstep gives.

what the fuck do I know though.

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Post by slowlygoingdeaf » Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:08 pm

Jtransition wrote:If anyone has any specific bass questions i will try to answer them.
so would you say dubstep has "its own frequency" or it just allows the bass more room and prominence on the track?

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Post by jtransition » Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:24 pm

slowlygoingdeaf wrote:
Jtransition wrote:If anyone has any specific bass questions i will try to answer them.
so would you say dubstep has "its own frequency" or it just allows the bass more room and prominence on the track?
I am not sure what you mean by ''its own frequency''If you are asking are there frequencys in dubstep that are not in other music then the answer is no,Dub step just has more bass than other genres.

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Post by elgato » Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:28 pm

Jtransition wrote:If anyone has any specific bass questions i will try to answer them.
what frequency range gives bass the most physicality?

what is the point (generally) at which its counterproductive to have the bass so low? what can most systems handle?

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Post by autonomic » Thu Feb 15, 2007 2:56 pm

@ Jason

i'm wondering how low in frequency range dubstep tracks typically tend to go...

when mastering, is there a point at which the low end is cut off?

and do dubstep tracks on vinyl or CD contain sound in the infrasonic range - i.e. below 20hz or so?

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Post by sully_shanks » Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:29 pm

cds cant go any lower than 20hz
vinyl can but i doubt any does. unless it was mastered by a duppy.

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Post by darkmatter » Thu Feb 15, 2007 4:04 pm

A lot of dubstep tunes will have bass going down to about 35Hz, below that a lot of it would be rolled off before cutting. Most small club systems will roll off fairly sharply below 45Hz, and bigger systems around 35Hz.

In DNB, kicks will often reside in a slightly higher frequency window than the bassline, to prevent it sounding muddy. Dubstep often has a more sparse texture and there are often more pure sine tones in the bass, so dubstep kicks are often lower than dnb.

Old jungle had plenty of sub, some modern jumpup dnb is for the "phone on a bus" or "£30 hifi" crew, and bass only seems to go down to about 70Hz :x

It's the pure waveforms and depth of dubstep basslines that give it the 'meditate on bass weight' vibe, but there's certainly plenty of dnb stuff that goes as low frequency wise. Commix - Talk to Frank :wink:

The 'punch in your chest' kicks are present in both dubstep, dnb and house. They'll often have the weight around 55-70Hz, and most club systems can reproduce this with quite a thump. In house there's often not much going on musically below about 70Hz.

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