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Re: dubstep dont need "edits" from djs in other scenes

Post by watoo » Fri May 21, 2010 9:44 am

EBR wrote:
koo wrote:Nice thread backfire.
:lol:
You think this is funny you should see the thread on Nuskoolbreaks.co.uk....

http://www.nuskoolbreaks.co.uk/forum/vi ... 2&t=135647

Someone hates on the tune here - it gets love back. Someone bigs up the tune on there - it gets ripped. The world is a funny place sometimes...

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Re: dubstep dont need "edits" from djs in other scenes

Post by NattyWallo » Fri May 21, 2010 10:09 am

cheeba wrote: Why do djs/producers from other scenes feel the need to take a perfectly decent tune,lay a real bait drum loop over it and call it a edit WTF???
Someone else played me some terrible mix's of caspa and benga by some tech house dj and just put a 4x4 over it.
Stop being a crybaby :i: , you seem to have forgotten where dubstep actually comes from.. yea; from DJs and producers editing other songs and genres :t:

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Re: dubstep dont need "edits" from djs in other scenes

Post by watoo » Fri May 21, 2010 10:13 am

To be honest as long as it other scene's editing your tunes you've got nothing to worry about. The situation in breaks where every other tune seems to be a remix or edit of another is a worrying sign (not meaning to slag of this edit).

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Re: dubstep dont need "edits" from djs in other scenes

Post by og » Fri May 21, 2010 10:46 am

that whole 'dubblestep' thing was hilarious.

edits are very commonplace in breaks. lack of good original material at the moment IMHO.

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Re: dubstep dont need "edits" from djs in other scenes

Post by incnic » Fri May 21, 2010 12:48 pm

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Re: dubstep dont need "edits" from djs in other scenes

Post by dirty d » Fri May 21, 2010 1:19 pm

someone did that to a an unreleased dubstep tune of mine.. then put link on facebook for a free download of it.. i went mental.. having no permission to do re-edit is out of order!!!
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Re: dubstep dont need "edits" from djs in other scenes

Post by Jurassik » Fri May 21, 2010 3:40 pm

I think I'd be a bit miffed if someone edited my track before it was even released. this is bit different tho. did they credit you?

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Post by MikeE » Sat May 22, 2010 6:14 am

I really like the edit tbh..
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Post by nousd » Sat May 22, 2010 1:23 pm

you seem to have forgotten where dubstep actually comes from.. yea; from DJs and producers editing other songs
wrong, so wrong
(unless you think ds began in 2009)
not one decent tune amongst those posted in this thread
the first sounding like a frustrated junglist
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Re: dubstep dont need "edits" from djs in other scenes

Post by MashCloud » Sat May 22, 2010 1:33 pm

Its built from a scene of remixing other genres, as is any electronic genre, there are fresh tracks and remixes / bootlegs in every scene and dubstep is not any different, just think of all the dub type dubstep, and ragga jungle, hip hop, all of of it takes samples from other genres.
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Re: dubstep dont need "edits" from djs in other scenes

Post by deadly_habit » Sat May 22, 2010 1:37 pm

sd5 wrote:
you seem to have forgotten where dubstep actually comes from.. yea; from DJs and producers editing other songs
wrong, so wrong
(unless you think ds began in 2009)
not one decent tune amongst those posted in this thread
the first sounding like a frustrated junglist
forgotten garage?
this is an argument without end
dubstep will remix, edit refix whatever other genre tunes
they will do same
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Re: dubstep dont need "edits" from djs in other scenes

Post by seckle » Sat May 22, 2010 4:37 pm

in the graf world, if someone you don't know is bombing your pieces all over town with their own pieces, its war. you've spent days doing a mural on a street corner, and then somebody you don't know from another neighborhood, puts their bullshit all over the top of it. thats not being re-inspired by art. thats not pushing creativity. that's just being mediocre in front of thousands of people.

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Re: dubstep dont need "edits" from djs in other scenes

Post by EBR » Sat May 22, 2010 7:52 pm

seckle wrote:in the graf world, if someone you don't know is bombing your pieces all over town with their own pieces, its war. you've spent days doing a mural on a street corner, and then somebody you don't know from another neighborhood, puts their bullshit all over the top of it. thats not being re-inspired by art. thats not pushing creativity. that's just being mediocre in front of thousands of people.
Agreed. The difference with music discussed here is how the remixes are being delivered to us. If its done with some creativity, tact & respect .. the remix goes over much better. Its not what you say its how you say it.

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Re: dubstep dont need "edits" from djs in other scenes

Post by dubloke » Sat May 22, 2010 8:13 pm

NattyWallo wrote:
cheeba wrote: Why do djs/producers from other scenes feel the need to take a perfectly decent tune,lay a real bait drum loop over it and call it a edit WTF???
Someone else played me some terrible mix's of caspa and benga by some tech house dj and just put a 4x4 over it.
Stop being a crybaby :i: , you seem to have forgotten where dubstep actually comes from.. yea; from DJs and producers editing other songs and genres :t:

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Re: dubstep dont need "edits" from djs in other scenes

Post by roshman111 » Sat May 22, 2010 8:20 pm

collige wrote:
south3rn wrote:sounds like a looooootttt of 2step and ukg.

take a popular song, and edit it into 2step

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Re: dubstep dont need "edits" from djs in other scenes

Post by human? » Sat May 22, 2010 8:33 pm

seckle wrote:in the graf world, if someone you don't know is bombing your pieces all over town with their own pieces, its war. you've spent days doing a mural on a street corner, and then somebody you don't know from another neighborhood, puts their bullshit all over the top of it. thats not being re-inspired by art. thats not pushing creativity. that's just being mediocre in front of thousands of people.


see this argument fails cause when you cross somebody the original piece gets destroyed. when you edit a tune, the original is still there in all its glory.

writers do tribute pieces in classic styles all the time. whos got re edited more than dondi? lol..

and borrowing letters and forms is par for the course.

matter of fact, writers take all kinds of imagery... id even say MOST productions are based around a theme thats jacked from somewhere...


Hiphop is sample based, the edit is a natural extension. its all about flexing your style, and creativity is absolutely getting pushed.

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Re: dubstep dont need "edits" from djs in other scenes

Post by seckle » Sat May 22, 2010 8:43 pm

yeah but human, if i bombed your mural, is that me trying to provoke you or inspire you? or is that me just trying to shine off your shine?

you of all people know graf culture better than anyone. bombing other peoples work, isn't something you do unless you want conflict. besides, i was just using graf as a metaphor for the reality of youtube in this world right now.

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Re: dubstep dont need "edits" from djs in other scenes

Post by wilson » Sat May 22, 2010 9:12 pm

seckle wrote:yeah but human, if i bombed your mural, is that me trying to provoke you or inspire you? or is that me just trying to shine off your shine?

you of all people know graf culture better than anyone. bombing other peoples work, isn't something you do unless you want conflict. besides, i was just using graf as a metaphor for the reality of youtube in this world right now.
This metaphor does not work.

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Re: dubstep dont need "edits" from djs in other scenes

Post by seckle » Sat May 22, 2010 9:40 pm

wilson wrote:
seckle wrote:yeah but human, if i bombed your mural, is that me trying to provoke you or inspire you? or is that me just trying to shine off your shine?

you of all people know graf culture better than anyone. bombing other peoples work, isn't something you do unless you want conflict. besides, i was just using graf as a metaphor for the reality of youtube in this world right now.
This metaphor does not work.
Your explanation why doesn't work.

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Re: dubstep dont need "edits" from djs in other scenes

Post by Pistonsbeneath » Sat May 22, 2010 10:38 pm

wilson wrote:
seckle wrote:yeah but human, if i bombed your mural, is that me trying to provoke you or inspire you? or is that me just trying to shine off your shine?

you of all people know graf culture better than anyone. bombing other peoples work, isn't something you do unless you want conflict. besides, i was just using graf as a metaphor for the reality of youtube in this world right now.
This metaphor does not work.
tend to agree here

without building on other music music would not have the chance to evolve for better or worse...

take the huge amount of toasting samples used to great effect in jungle/garage as well as dubstep to great effect...surely using these lines in totally the wrong context to improve your art and express yourself is worse than doing an edit of something and not change much for ease of use?
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