england is grim

[dubmatters]

I've got a German flag hanging from my window.

FUCK YOU English pigs!

[helix]

just look at the american flag and what kind of people over there use it over there, theyve even got a specific flag for racist use (confederate flag)

I wish I had seen this post before, fucking LOL. Just because some racists identify with the confederate flag, doesn't mean its a racist symbol. If that were the case, any flag would pretty much represent the same.

that was kind of in jest. but i remember going to south carolina i think and there were whole shops (stores) just selling confederate flag paraphernalia, there were even t shirts with the confederate flag saying "if this shirt offends you then..." AKA "im not racist but..."

"If this shirt offends you, you haven't read a history book."

[dubstepper]

Wearing a shirt is cool, but waving a flag around like some mug is just racist. why would you wave the flag of your own country in the country itself, seems kind of redundant to me unless you want to make a (racist) point

You are some next level muggy tnuc, grow up

[Kaneda]

This isnt a snipe at Americans but dont a lot of you hang the Stars and Stripes outside their house all year round as a sign of patriotism?

Some people do. A lot of people think it's "ignorant" to be patriotic though. Depends on the state/city really.

[-dubson-]

Patriotism is all just a load of bollocks, and it does lead to xenophobia and rascisim you have to say. Support your nation yes, be proud of your nation too but loving your country is just plain stupid.

England shirts/flags/ect. are pretty awful and tasteless but fair enough if you really want to wear them. The point i think is that a lot (majority probably) of the people who are patriots are gonna be xenophobic and racist even if they try and hide it. I honestly think that a HUGE proportion of the nation are just trying to be PC and hide their real feelings about forgieners and other ethnic backgrounds. We have a real problem its just being covered up. IMO

ps. 99% of the time anyone says "i'm not racist/xenophobic/homophobic/a dick/the bee knees... BUT" chances are they are just about to contradict themselves bigtime.

[drlego]

country is going tits up with the worst recession in years and people are shitting themselves about flags.



best of luck England!

[magma]

edit: Is it cos we kicked your ass in 1986, 2000, 2004 and 2006 every European and World Cup match in the last 24 years?

Yes, it's this.

It's just a petty sporting grudge... I love Portugal when I'm not looking at Cristiano Ronaldo's grinning face!

We currently have my housemate's South African flag draped over the ironing board.

[tr0tsky]

I think there are two sides to this conversation.


Yes, it makes me uncomfortable to see the whole "this is my flag fuck off home" ENGEEEEERRRRRRRRRRLUUUUUND pissed up stnuc going around like it means shit to be born on a piece of land. It doesn't, and if your pikey arse ever went somewhere more interesting than Marbella on holiday you'll realise that actually humans are all pretty fucking similar wherever they're from.



BUT....

My sister (who supports Liverpool ) and is an Indian woman has brought an England flag and will most probably wear it around her shoulders in the pub watching the football and cheering as if she's got any idea of wtf is going on. Pretty harmless and its a bit of fun.




BUT....


I think people who wear England shirts and flags IN FUCKING ENGLAND are bigger tossers than stnuc who wear university hoodies WHILST AT THAT UNI.

[mr. lizard]

I think that if I was displaying the England flag in this country, and someone said to me that they don't like my England flag I would tell them to fuck off. That is not racism.

No but if you deliberately put it up to annoy/offend people then you probably would be. In East London at least.

If it offends people, then that is a bonus

Then you're a typical NF skinhead tnuc who probably walks around town yelling "pakis go home"

How the fuck have you come to this conclusion?

If anyone is offended by my flag, then good because I do not have time or care for for petty / stupid people like that.

Fuck the PC parade aswell, you're worse than the racists

people like you make me ashamed to be english

you probably insist on egg n chips when you go to spain instead of trying the local paella

If we're making assumptions, then I'd say you probably fuck your sister

[tr0tsky]

Fuck the PC parade aswell, you're worse than the racists.

FUCK YEAH.

[mr. lizard]

I'm a pussy

[LA_Boxers]

edit: Is it cos we kicked your ass in 1986, 2000, 2004 and 2006 every European and World Cup match in the last 24 years?

Yes, it's this.

It's just a petty sporting grudge... I love Portugal when I'm not looking at Cristiano Ronaldo's grinning face!

We currently have my housemate's South African flag draped over the ironing board.

This.

Sporting grudges are fine, this is not racist either. As a Crystal Palace fan i hate Brighton fans. Not because ''they are gay'', because we have a rivalry with them. Done. Cristiano Ronaldo is a total cock btw.

[tr0tsky]

I'm a pussy

Yup, this.

[mr. lizard]

Christiano Ronaldo needs a shotgun to the face when he does that wink

[JFK]

Wearing a shirt is cool, but waving a flag around like some mug is just racist. why would you wave the flag of your own country in the country itself, seems kind of redundant to me unless you want to make a (racist) point

I hope this is a troll post.

If its your true opinion then Im afraid you are a total cocksucker.

One for the foe list I reckon.......

[nousd]

again:

Miserable pommie bastards

I can understand the discomfort with flag waving & all
but how about a bit of good faith & support
Fuck I'll be supporting the England team in their group at least
cos I know the amount of shit they cop from their countrymen.

[saphyre]

i can totally understand the fact that the majority of white people in the UK will never accept their inherent racism, but then when im trying to highlight something that i think is racist and put it into perspective for other people i get called a 'total cocksucker' thats just disappointing.

[faust.dtc]

i can totally understand the fact that the majority of white people in the UK will never accept their inherent racism, but then when im trying to highlight something that i think is racist and put it into perspective for other people i get called a 'total cocksucker' thats just disappointing.

Id get used to it if I was you...

[Roflrilla]

Shirts on match day are fine.

You wear one the same reason why you wear a [INSERT FOOTBALL TEAM NAME HERE] shirt when they play.



Flags on the other hand, just showing your a pikey racist tnuc.

[dubmatters]

can someone please explain why having a flag is racist.

thanks.