If you think racism in the UK is bad try going to Italy, France or any of Eastern Europe.saphyre wrote:i can totally understand the fact that the majority of white people in the UK will never accept their inherent racism, but then when im trying to highlight something that i think is racist and put it into perspective for other people i get called a 'total cocksucker' thats just disappointing.
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@ dubmatters
it isnt really is it lets face it but im sure if you were you'd be rocking one and this country has underlying racism let's face it
whenever im out in croydon and you get some girls all pissed up arguing with someone that isnt white they ALWAYS bring race into it and suggest they go back to their own country
dont be so quick to judge people just because they dont live in a poncey area where everyone has a brain...i live on an estate and this shit is all around me
it isnt really is it lets face it but im sure if you were you'd be rocking one and this country has underlying racism let's face it
whenever im out in croydon and you get some girls all pissed up arguing with someone that isnt white they ALWAYS bring race into it and suggest they go back to their own country
dont be so quick to judge people just because they dont live in a poncey area where everyone has a brain...i live on an estate and this shit is all around me
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saphyre wrote:i can totally understand the fact that the majority of white people in the UK will never accept their inherent racism.
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I live in a shithole and even see the little kids being racist, 'give me the football darky' etc etc. I don't think racism will ever go away when people still divide themselves up by colour/religion etcPistonsbeneath wrote:@ dubmatters
it isnt really is it lets face it but im sure if you were you'd be rocking one and this country has underlying racism let's face it
whenever im out in croydon and you get some girls all pissed up arguing with someone that isnt white they ALWAYS bring race into it and suggest they go back to their own country
dont be so quick to judge people just because they dont like a poncey area where everyone has a brain...i live on an estate and this shit is all around me
I'm glad I'm moving from the hole that is Roehampton next week.
Its a shame that me displaying a flag makes others think I'm racist.
I don't care what anyone else thinks, life's too short to be worried about shit like that.
But calling someone a racist just because they display a flag is stupid and stereotypical and is just as silly as assuming that all poor people are criminals
ETA I don't even have a flag btw, tacky as fuck.
maybe his magical jew carpenter compelled him to speak out
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Long post, summary: 'why I don't think 'racism' topics are worth too much energy'Pedro Sánchez wrote:saphyre wrote:i can totally understand the fact that the majority of white people in the UK will never accept their inherent racism.
Ayeeee, for example, there's a million bigger issues in life to worry about rather than insisting on keeping the topic of racism as a constantly fresh and nourished topic. Every human is far from equal, race is clearly just a scapegoat to avoid the real issues behind why a single species can't bond and a vent towards the anger of a planet that's running out of space and resources. The human mind as a collective unit should be capable of sorting every problem, if life where to be based on needs rather than wants
Ever notice the similarities between those who really support and oppose 'racism'? IME, it's rare that they've ever tried to integrate amongst other cultures, instead they just wish to reinforce ideologies amongst people they come into contact with
Also what's a bigger surprise? That Homo sapiens are one species because we killed any other similar species, or the fact that this trait has bubbled over into these falsely applied 'sub sectors' of our species now?
Corruption from the brainwashing of needing a big bank account and all the other shite is a far bigger concern. It prevents the 'awakening from the matrix' and acknowledging fundamental problems regarding a downhill future... Intra-species arguing is perhaps a result of this, but it shouldn't be the focus of life when we're programmed to hate people who are too similar to us anyway
Besides, fuck the white devil, the tables will turn as the ozone depletes and white-man becomes crippled by UV related skin cancers that other 'races' suffer from far less
Racism is bad, but so are many things in life. Some people are just afraid of learning so won't be taught. Fuck 'em don't feed 'em
Bigger fish to fry!
Enjoy the competition whilst the weapon is just a football
The day of nuclear war comes close, and when it is, you'll all see how redundant silly arguements of race were
Anyway... "I'm not racist but I've been mugged and set on fire by a gang of british-indian yoof". There's always a flipside!

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interesting post
i btw havent gone out with a white girl since i was 18 (now 29) and i am white
i also shared a house with ugandans for a year
i btw havent gone out with a white girl since i was 18 (now 29) and i am white
i also shared a house with ugandans for a year
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Ayee man can't blame you! My twin brother has had a long time Chinese girlfriend, finding it difficult though because her family and culture arn't as happy about the mixed race relationship as Brits seem to be. Isn't something to be jumped up at and classed as racism though, I can loosely view it in another (albeit mornic) fashionPistonsbeneath wrote:interesting post
i btw havent gone out with a white girl since i was 18 (now 29) and i am white
i also shared a house with ugandans for a year
Dunno though... Been in far more harmonious situations with people of different origins than I have negative situations. The topic of 'race' never crops up within peaceful circles, can even have a laugh at each other's expenses, such as French girls been horrified at my Yorkshire-tinted feeble attempts at speaking French ha
Anyway, none of my negative experiences with other races have tainted my impression of the race as a whole. Life is full of arseholes, twats, stnuc and penises, just a case of figuring out which ones are up for a shag and which ones just want to pour out more human waste

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Fuck off you prat.BLAHBLAHJAH wrote: Ever notice the similarities between those who really support and oppose 'racism'? IME, it's rare that they've ever tried to integrate amongst other cultures, instead they just wish to reinforce ideologies amongst people they come into contact with
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tr0tsky wrote:Fuck off you prat.BLAHBLAHJAH wrote: Ever notice the similarities between those who really support and oppose 'racism'? IME, it's rare that they've ever tried to integrate amongst other cultures, instead they just wish to reinforce ideologies amongst people they come into contact with
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If you're the activist tool, question why you spend so much time campaigning in the company of people that are like you. It's the ying to the yan
Meanwhile, I party with buddies from all over the world, who is the one building real bonds
So....
Prat off you fuck

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So now anti-racists are the racists? 

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Everybody knows that only white people are racist anyway, except those that have ever had at least one non-white friend ever and can claim to be 'down' with the ethnic community...
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its cool for you to have an indifferent attitude to everything, fine most people do, but realise you're basically saying... none of this is a big deal racism doesnt even effect me you guys need to get a life im partying building bonds im too cool to care about things theres more to life than arguing etc...BLAHBLAHJAH wrote:Meanwhile, I party with buddies from all over the world, who is the one building real bonds (<--not you)
So....
Prat off you fuck
this isnt like religion vs atheism where both sides can be equally extreme
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Pistons - do you hate being white ?
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Thats not really the point is it...BLAHBLAHJAH wrote:Racism is bad, but so are many things in life. Some people are just afraid of learning so won't be taught. Fuck 'em don't feed 'em

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BLAHBLAHJAH wrote:tr0tsky wrote:Fuck off you prat.BLAHBLAHJAH wrote: Ever notice the similarities between those who really support and oppose 'racism'? IME, it's rare that they've ever tried to integrate amongst other cultures, instead they just wish to reinforce ideologies amongst people they come into contact with
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If you're the activist tool, question why you spend so much time campaigning in the company of people that are like you. It's the ying to the yan
Meanwhile, I party with buddies from all over the world, who is the one building real bonds
So....
Prat off you fuck
What do you mean by "people like you"?
And I party with people from all over the world too you ninny, not that getting pissed with foreigners is anything to do with international solidarity. Out of my house of 7 residents I'm one of two that was actually born in England.
And you might not have seen but only last month I was in Central America working to build up a trade union there. I've literally sent out an email to a dozen young trade unionists on up coming strategy for the next few weeks on how they can organise in their workplace. If that's not "building real bonds" I don't know what is.
In October I'm going to be working on building projects in the West Bank, and possibly teaching English too. Building bonds.
And if by "people like me" you're suggesting that all anti-racist activists are white middle class students once again your breath stinks of poo. I'm neither.

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faust.dtc wrote:Everybody knows that only white people are racist anyway.
I understand what you're saying Travis, but there's a difference between me calling you a honkey [which would be a racial slur] and the endemic and systematic racism [of for instance anti-refugee sentiment, Islamophobia or anti-Irish prejudice at the turn of the century]
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No, although the toleration could suggest otherwise if they're driven to generate a racial stereotype of those who are against their race. Or could be answered simply as 'yes' if it's two forces of equal power battling it out. Stand on the sidelines with an M16 and spray them all so we sound humans can get on with lifethe acid never lies wrote:So now anti-racists are the racists?
They're encapsulated in the same issues though and both of these sides will most likely never change or mingle, but instead continue to add numbers to a pointless battle
The reality is, there's ample people that are happy without this issue, and it only becomes a problem when it's raised due to encountering someone of either the pro or anti side. They are the people that keep on bringing the issue back and infecting those who can function in harmony.
I'm aware that both sides differ in extremities, but it's a travesty to say that you have to be against something in order to not support it. It's a different kind of wood for a common fire. Obviously the neutral state is to oppose racism, but I'm not into randomly hating people, least of all for something as small as being a different race (when we're all genetically one species and 'races' don't even qualify as strains!)
Everyone has it programmed that they want to be rich. No one has it programmed that they want to be white and English... Mix with people around the world and pick up on it. Some of you are that ignorant to think that because (i.e.) English people 'hate' the French that the Frenchwould prefer to be here? Vice versa
Anyway Saphyre, regarding your comment, you've proved to be the most clueless idiot within this topic, and to insult my productive way of encouraging fun between all humans says very little about your persona or deluded campaign. Of course I'm affected by racism, but 95% of the time it's shitty little rich white kids moaning without doing anything or even daring to mingle with different cultures. The other 5% is being assaulted by gangs of different cultures

Uhhh... Get off your high horse. 'People like you' means hanging around with people with similar interests, passions and crusades. Don't be as selfish to think it pertains to how you look or your roots, if you were even insinuating playing the race card, shame on you. Anyway, am really impressed with what you're doing, but doing such things constantly in the proximity of "people like you" is not going to influence those who are not like you... i.e. the people's minds you wish to change. Definately a ripe start thoughWhat do you mean by "people like you"?
I think you'll find it is the point. Ask people why they are racist and prepare to be dazzled by the highly intelligent answers! (not)Thats not really the point is it... Lol you goon.
Racism mutates when it's constantly pressed into people like me that don't wish to give the negative sides attention, so in the future focus your 'anti white' remakrs on white people that fit your racist criteria. It's a fucking retarded world when peaceful people are pushed to pick sides rather than the sides becoming peaceful

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He tries to change my mind all the time.BLAHBLAHJAH wrote:Anyway, am really impressed with what you're doing, but doing such things constantly in the proximity of "people like you" is not going to influence those who are not like you... i.e. the people's minds you wish to change.
It hasn't worked, but I still love the commie bastard.
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Racism is inherently wrong, even if you are stupid it shouldnt mean you are let off from it.. I am not sure I understand your point anymore. Yes the world has plenty of other problems but that doesn't mean we can just say "forget the race problem". It affects a lot of people pretty badly.
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