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Re: key to hiphop beats?

Post by jsills » Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:02 pm

keep it hood. no long intros, no ambience, just beats and bass with some type of musical hook for the chorus. thats hiphop.

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Re: key to hiphop beats?

Post by Ldizzy » Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:07 am

jsills wrote:keep it hood. no long intros, no ambience, just beats and bass with some type of musical hook for the chorus. thats hiphop.
uve got ur shit tight

straight to the point. pure. dont stack too much. you wont be able to polish a turd and thats especially true with hip hop beats. drums drums drums.

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Re: key to hiphop beats?

Post by mondays child » Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:30 am

Get diggin' them crates!

It's about the samples see, where you get your bass, guitar, keys etc there all on the wax.
Get down to charity shops or car boot sales and buy some cheap vinyl, get sampling and chopping up stuff into little chunks.

This applies to drums just as much as musical phrases, vocal snatches et al.

Experiment and go wild with compression, try different FX chains, side chaining, ducking and whatever else you feel like.

It's all about the 'feel' you have to LISTEN to Hip Hop and lots of music genres. Take bits you like. You'll know when you hear something you like.
It sounds really obvious....because it is that obvious!

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Re: key to hiphop beats?

Post by nowaysj » Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:58 am

ha ha ha, old thread. hip hop is obvious that is the hard thing. kiss and keep it dirty, and just don't loose focus of your main beat, keep that back bone strong.
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Re: key to hiphop beats?

Post by DZA » Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:59 am

mondays child wrote:Get diggin' them crates!

It's about the samples see, where you get your bass, guitar, keys etc there all on the wax.
Get down to charity shops or car boot sales and buy some cheap vinyl, get sampling and chopping up stuff into little chunks.

This applies to drums just as much as musical phrases, vocal snatches et al.

Experiment and go wild with compression, try different FX chains, side chaining, ducking and whatever else you feel like.

It's all about the 'feel' you have to LISTEN to Hip Hop and lots of music genres. Take bits you like. You'll know when you hear something you like.
It sounds really obvious....because it is that obvious!

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Re: key to hiphop beats?

Post by legend4ry » Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:04 am

Depends what kinda hiphop you like...

I like sampled, straigh forward hiphop.

I am not a huge fan of that wonky stuff people are making these days (it just sounds like a gameboy being put through a blender 90% of the time)

Just listening and analyse your favourite tunes and repulcate it, then once you got that down, move onto something original.. same advice i'd give to anyone making dubstep..


Its not that hard working at different BPMs... I mean, my hiphop tunes, house tunes and dubstep tunes all have the same "sound" .. its just knowing how to produce music you like, really!
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Re: key to hiphop beats?

Post by nowaysj » Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:14 am

kick snare
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Re: key to hiphop beats?

Post by deadly_habit » Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:02 am

nowaysj wrote:kick snare
it's unbelievable

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Re: key to hiphop beats?

Post by DZA » Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:04 am

deadly habit wrote:
nowaysj wrote:kick snare
it's unbelievable
:lol: Such a awful tune
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Re: key to hiphop beats?

Post by legend4ry » Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:07 am

DZA wrote:
deadly habit wrote:
nowaysj wrote:kick snare
it's unbelievable
:lol: Such a awful tune
I agree.
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Re: key to hiphop beats?

Post by nowaysj » Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:23 am

no more having a misconstrued laugh at my expense! :evil:
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Re: key to hiphop beats?

Post by Point Blank » Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:11 am

Hi there,

Good to see some healthy discussion in this thread!
I'll try and throw in my 2 cents.

Firstly as there are some common traits in Hip-hop it is one of the most diverse genres of music around taking influence and inspiration from everything and everyone.
Also 140bpm is the tempo for crunk music (lil Jon etc.) So you might find that it easier to start off listening to alot of that style of Hip-hop.
But as your finding it uncomfortable/wierd to make hip-hop beats outside 140bpm you ever thought about going on a music prodcution course?
At Point Blank we run and online course in Hip-hop which might be of interest to you. Have a look at our in-depth course brouchre: http://www.pointblankonline.net/hip-hop-production.php.

I wish you all the best in your productions!!!

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Re: key to hiphop beats?

Post by JFK » Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:22 am

Point Blank wrote:Hi there,

Good to see some healthy discussion in this thread!
I'll try and throw in my 2 cents.

Firstly as there are some common traits in Hip-hop it is one of the most diverse genres of music around taking influence and inspiration from everything and everyone.
Also 140bpm is the tempo for crunk music (lil Jon etc.) So you might find that it easier to start off listening to alot of that style of Hip-hop.
But as your finding it uncomfortable/wierd to make hip-hop beats outside 140bpm you ever thought about going on a music prodcution course?
At Point Blank we run and online course in Hip-hop which might be of interest to you. Have a look at our in-depth course brouchre: http://www.pointblankonline.net/hip-hop-production.php.

I wish you all the best in your productions!!!
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Re: key to hiphop beats?

Post by nowaysj » Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:24 am

ha, crossing the line :G:

dubstep is 140, but drums are often halftime, which is slow as fuck. HH from 80 - 110 is much faster by comparison, no?
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Re: key to hiphop beats?

Post by Point Blank » Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:56 am

@JFK

I'm sorry to hear that you class my last post as spam.
I'm simply just offerening an alternative to the other suggestions posted in the thread.
I personally think that some formal learning will benefit every budding producer at some point in their career.
Hopefully you will have a look at our website and upon reading what we offer our students you'll change your mindframe.

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Re: key to hiphop beats?

Post by JFK » Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:20 am

Point Blank wrote:@JFK

I'm sorry to hear that you class my last post as spam.
I'm simply just offerening an alternative to the other suggestions posted in the thread.
I personally think that some formal learning will benefit every budding producer at some point in their career.
Hopefully you will have a look at our website and upon reading what we offer our students you'll change your mindframe.

Thank You
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Re: key to hiphop beats?

Post by ENZA » Thu Jul 01, 2010 11:28 am

i dont have any software to try that beat, but i tried tapping it and i like that drum beat at least ;)
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Re: key to hiphop beats?

Post by nowaysj » Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:34 pm

Point Blank wrote:you'll change your mindframe.

Thank You
I gave this careful consideration, but decided to buy some musical education for a much cheaper price from here.
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Re: key to hiphop beats?

Post by ENZA » Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:55 pm

nowaysj wrote:
Point Blank wrote:you'll change your mindframe.

Thank You
I gave this careful consideration, but decided to buy some musical education for a much cheaper price from here.
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Re: key to hiphop beats?

Post by redraven » Thu Jul 01, 2010 8:00 pm

The rappers I've worked with locally seem to like "grittyness". Meaning they like my tracks that seem a little empty to me and maybe may not be mixed or EQ as well as I usually would. Maybe that's part of the "keep it hood" concept or maybe they just used to crap quality ripped instrumentals...

On a side note Hip Hop needs to be straight to the point and generally speaking uses more real instrument sounds than synths (at least here in the US) I consider the synthy beats to be Rap beats.

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