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STUPID ABLETON QUESTION..

Post by woottsy » Sat Jul 10, 2010 8:59 pm

If I drag and drop a drum break in and slice to new midi track, how do I then pitch individual slices? Also, how can I insert midi grooves into the piano roll of a specific track? Before you tell me to RTFM, I have tried, and it's fucking massive, can't find exactly what I want.

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Re: STUPID ABLETON QUESTION..

Post by symmetricalsounds » Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:28 pm

once you've sliced to new midi track you're going to have a rack full of the slices, so just goto the sampler with the particular sample you wanna pitch up/down and goto the transpose box.

not sure what you mean about inserting midi grooves, does that mean midi patterns? should be able to just drag n drop them onto a track.

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Re: STUPID ABLETON QUESTION..

Post by woottsy » Sat Jul 10, 2010 9:40 pm

symmetricalsounds wrote:once you've sliced to new midi track you're going to have a rack full of the slices, so just goto the sampler with the particular sample you wanna pitch up/down and goto the transpose box.

not sure what you mean about inserting midi grooves, does that mean midi patterns? should be able to just drag n drop them onto a track.
I just get options for envelopes, mute and solo for individual slices, not pitch or transpose? Here's a screenshot, I know I'm doing something stupid:

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Re: STUPID ABLETON QUESTION..

Post by wayoftheworld » Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:09 pm

lol all you have to do is double click each cell (the little box where it says 'slice 1' etc) and you'll see a simpler window open (where it says 'drop audio effects here') wherein you can change the slices properties.
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Re: STUPID ABLETON QUESTION..

Post by abZ » Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:20 pm

^ bingo
As far as grooves go that depends on what version you have but 8 is the only one where you can actually extract a groove. Not sure I can explain that real quick without losing you. I would do a YouTube search for ableton 8 groove engine. I know for sure there is a good tutorial up there as I needed it myself. Pretty easy once you get it.

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Re: STUPID ABLETON QUESTION..

Post by sixth sense » Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:24 pm

*insert facepalm.gif here*

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Post by Moxxiedubstep » Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:34 pm

Nice to see people that actually answer peoples questions for once.

nice work on the screenshot

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Re: STUPID ABLETON QUESTION..

Post by woottsy » Sat Jul 10, 2010 10:52 pm

sixth sense wrote:*insert facepalm.gif here*
Lol, really helpful mate, I'm using something I only tried out a couple of hours ago for the 1st time, am I supposed to know everything about a different sequencer then I'm used to straight away?

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Re: STUPID ABLETON QUESTION..

Post by wayoftheworld » Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:07 pm

woottsy wrote:
sixth sense wrote:*insert facepalm.gif here*
Lol, really helpful mate, I'm using something I only tried out a couple of hours ago for the 1st time, am I supposed to know everything about a different sequencer then I'm used to straight away?
don't worry about it man, we all gotta start somewhere. drum racks are an awesome tool for not just drum hits, but any kind of sample. each cell can be processed differently with fx - just drop any fx you want on the respective cell you want to affect. also, by clicking the little circular button that's second from top next to the envelope macro groupings, you can create different fx chains for your rack.

some other things to consider: mess around with the 'slicing preset options' whenever you're slicing to new midi. and in case you didn't know, the little triangle at the bottom left of the screen will bring up a help dialogue whenever you mouse over something, which will get you on your way with ableton!

there's also an Ableton Q&A thread, might wanna put your questions in there for future reference (helps keep the board tidy). and i'm always doing what i can to answer new questions in there.

good luck!
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Re: STUPID ABLETON QUESTION..

Post by woottsy » Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:37 pm

wayoftheworld wrote:
woottsy wrote:
sixth sense wrote:*insert facepalm.gif here*
Lol, really helpful mate, I'm using something I only tried out a couple of hours ago for the 1st time, am I supposed to know everything about a different sequencer then I'm used to straight away?
don't worry about it man, we all gotta start somewhere. drum racks are an awesome tool for not just drum hits, but any kind of sample. each cell can be processed differently with fx - just drop any fx you want on the respective cell you want to affect. also, by clicking the little circular button that's second from top next to the envelope macro groupings, you can create different fx chains for your rack.

some other things to consider: mess around with the 'slicing preset options' whenever you're slicing to new midi. and in case you didn't know, the little triangle at the bottom left of the screen will bring up a help dialogue whenever you mouse over something, which will get you on your way with ableton!

there's also an Ableton Q&A thread, might wanna put your questions in there for future reference (helps keep the board tidy). and i'm always doing what i can to answer new questions in there.

good luck!
Yeah, thanks for the help everyone, if I have any further questions I'll stick em in there. It's not like im a noob, just got stuck on one silly thing for a few mins lol. What an idiot :lol:

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Re: STUPID ABLETON QUESTION..

Post by Gusto » Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:25 am

On the Grooves thing:

There should be a folder in the Ableton Library called Grooves. I think they're .agr files. Just drag one on to the midi editor/piano roll and it should appear in the little Groove drop down box in the clip settings. It doesn't actually make viewable changes to the midi notes until you Commit but you can hear the swing. Or you can extract a Groove from a break or something and drag it to the piano roll from the groove pool.
It's a cool little tool. I like to extract the groove from a break and then apply it to audio, and it inserts warp markers to give the groove.

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Re: STUPID ABLETON QUESTION..

Post by sixth sense » Sun Jul 11, 2010 1:58 am

I wasn't trying to be a dick or anything sorry about that it's just a pretty easy find via youtube, google, manual etc.. enjoy ableton its the bomb!

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Re: STUPID ABLETON QUESTION..

Post by EBR » Sun Jul 11, 2010 2:53 am

*cheers* ' taking notes. Image
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Re: STUPID ABLETON QUESTION..

Post by rook » Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:00 am

On the topic of Ableton drumracks I was reminded of a neat trick. The sampler doesn't give you lfo's to work with on samples, but the drum rack does. So, you can take a straight sample of a bass and duplicate it to however many pads on the drumrack you want, then set each at different LFO speeds. Then it's as easy as dragging notes up or down on the piano roll for different divisions.

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Re: STUPID ABLETON QUESTION..

Post by wayoftheworld » Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:15 am

rook wrote:On the topic of Ableton drumracks I was reminded of a neat trick. The sampler doesn't give you lfo's to work with on samples
sorry if im misunderstanding you, but are you saying that the Sampler instrument doesn't give you lfo's to modulate the sample you're working with'? because in the modulation tab there's 3 different lfo's...

not only that, but if you're working with a sample in sampler, you can right click and select sampler ------> simpler if you'd rather use simpler's lfo. of course, you can always right click again to go back to sampler for even more modulation possibility (this applies to samples loaded into drum racks as well)
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Re: STUPID ABLETON QUESTION..

Post by rook » Sun Jul 11, 2010 5:17 am

wayoftheworld wrote:
rook wrote:On the topic of Ableton drumracks I was reminded of a neat trick. The sampler doesn't give you lfo's to work with on samples
sorry if im misunderstanding you, but are you saying that the Sampler instrument doesn't give you lfo's to modulate the sample you're working with'? because in the modulation tab there's 3 different lfo's...

not only that, but if you're working with a sample in sampler, you can right click and select sampler ------> simpler if you'd rather use simpler's lfo. of course, you can always right click again to go back to sampler for even more modulation possibility (this applies to samples loaded into drum racks as well)
You can't give them different rates. Sorry, I was unclear.

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Re: STUPID ABLETON QUESTION..

Post by abZ » Sun Jul 11, 2010 5:41 am

rook wrote:
wayoftheworld wrote:
rook wrote:On the topic of Ableton drumracks I was reminded of a neat trick. The sampler doesn't give you lfo's to work with on samples
sorry if im misunderstanding you, but are you saying that the Sampler instrument doesn't give you lfo's to modulate the sample you're working with'? because in the modulation tab there's 3 different lfo's...

not only that, but if you're working with a sample in sampler, you can right click and select sampler ------> simpler if you'd rather use simpler's lfo. of course, you can always right click again to go back to sampler for even more modulation possibility (this applies to samples loaded into drum racks as well)
You can't give them different rates. Sorry, I was unclear.
You can automate the rate of each of the 3 lfo's. You can do it your way if you want to, just sayin'.

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