BASS HARMONICS
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staticcast
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Re: BASS HARMONICS
Jesus christ, this thread got out of hand pretty quick.
I'm 90% sure the sound is a sine sub, layered with the same sine run quite subtly through a sine waveshaper and then highpassed. It's quite a distinctive sound, similar to a filter-enveloped square but not quite the same. You can hear it in the harmonics - odd only. It's definitely not a saw, or filtered saws, or any combination of saws, because saws contain both even and odd harmonics and sound a lot more gritty and less hollow. It *might* be some kind of filtered square - again, odd harmonics - but unlikely, because, er, it sounds exactly like a sine run through a sine-shaped waveshaper.
Step by step guide:
1) Write a sub bassline
2) Copy the track, instruments and all
3) On the copied track, modulate the amplitude of the sine using whatever you want (slow envelopes, LFO, whatever)
4) Run this amp-modulated sine into a sine waveshaper. Go easy on the gain. The varying amplitude will mean you get varying levels of (odd) harmonics, because waveshapers are heavily dependent on the level of the signal coming in
6) Highpass this channel so the pure sine gives you all the sub and this channel gives you the low mids
5) Filter/EQ/etc to taste
I'm 90% sure the sound is a sine sub, layered with the same sine run quite subtly through a sine waveshaper and then highpassed. It's quite a distinctive sound, similar to a filter-enveloped square but not quite the same. You can hear it in the harmonics - odd only. It's definitely not a saw, or filtered saws, or any combination of saws, because saws contain both even and odd harmonics and sound a lot more gritty and less hollow. It *might* be some kind of filtered square - again, odd harmonics - but unlikely, because, er, it sounds exactly like a sine run through a sine-shaped waveshaper.
Step by step guide:
1) Write a sub bassline
2) Copy the track, instruments and all
3) On the copied track, modulate the amplitude of the sine using whatever you want (slow envelopes, LFO, whatever)
4) Run this amp-modulated sine into a sine waveshaper. Go easy on the gain. The varying amplitude will mean you get varying levels of (odd) harmonics, because waveshapers are heavily dependent on the level of the signal coming in
6) Highpass this channel so the pure sine gives you all the sub and this channel gives you the low mids
5) Filter/EQ/etc to taste
o b j e k t
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deadly_habit
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Re: BASS HARMONICS
can you kids stop sword fighting with your e-peens in public for awhile or do it via pm
Re: BASS HARMONICS
6) ????
7) Profit
heh not quite sword fighting, more like standing with your sword half drawn while the other guy spins in circles holding a fish
7) Profit
heh not quite sword fighting, more like standing with your sword half drawn while the other guy spins in circles holding a fish
Blaze it -4.20dB
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deadly_habit
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Re: BASS HARMONICS
SunkLo wrote:6) ????
7) Profit
heh not quite sword fighting, more like standing with your sword half drawn while the other guy spins in circles holding a fish
Re: BASS HARMONICS
What a bellend moxxie is!
I had to comment on his deaf people being told they can't play piano thing. Essentially as a better metaphor moxxie was telling someone with perfectly good hearing to deaden themselves in order to play the piano. Also stating that playing the piano without hearing impairment is wrong.
Also liked the "I want analogue saturation on a guitar", "fuck it use a saw wave".
That made me giggle.
I had to comment on his deaf people being told they can't play piano thing. Essentially as a better metaphor moxxie was telling someone with perfectly good hearing to deaden themselves in order to play the piano. Also stating that playing the piano without hearing impairment is wrong.
Also liked the "I want analogue saturation on a guitar", "fuck it use a saw wave".
That made me giggle.
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deadly_habit
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Re: BASS HARMONICS
i'm debating if moxxie is rendr aka junglist
too lazy to research it atm
too lazy to research it atm
Re: BASS HARMONICS
No way. Rendr was a sociopath but actually brought something to discussions.
Re: BASS HARMONICS
Rendr was a guy thodeadly habit wrote:i'm debating if moxxie is rendr aka junglist
too lazy to research it atm
Cant say the same thing about moxxie
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deadly_habit
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Re: BASS HARMONICS
i think the tune comp between him and audiowright made him realize his testicles were decorationsDZA wrote:Rendr was a guy thodeadly habit wrote:i'm debating if moxxie is rendr aka junglist
too lazy to research it atm
Cant say the same thing about moxxie
Re: BASS HARMONICS
jackmaster wrote:you went in with this mix.
Soundcloud.onelove. wrote:There needs to be a DZA app on iPhone just for id'ing old Grime tracks.
http://soundcloud.com/keepitgully http://www.mixcloud.com/slevarance/
Re: BASS HARMONICS
Moxxie's youtube name was "Elektrowhore". Says it all really. 
Re: BASS HARMONICS
CBA to read the thread, but this is easily achieved with frequency modulation. You just have to apply some modulation (a parabol wave is nice) to a sub sine, but really carefully and not a lot. Then mess with envelopes.
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win
Blaze it -4.20dB
nowaysj wrote:Raising a girl in this jizz filled world is not the easiest thing.
If I ever get banned I'll come back as SpunkLo, just you mark my words.Phigure wrote:I haven't heard such a beautiful thing since that time Jesus sang Untrue
Re: BASS HARMONICS
Well if you listen real close at the end of bass phrases, there is some higher stuff just kind of whips in. Sounds kind of like a formant because it's kind of nasaly. Could be just a resonant bandpassed layer of the sub?
Re: BASS HARMONICS
or certain modulator waveshapesnowaysj wrote:Well if you listen real close at the end of bass phrases, there is some higher stuff just kind of whips in. Sounds kind of like a formant because it's kind of nasaly. Could be just a resonant bandpassed layer of the sub?
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