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Post by ramses020 » Fri Jul 16, 2010 2:37 pm

I don't really understand why people are bothered with 'brostep' so much. Every music genre you love will contain movements which you won't like. I think 'brostep' is a stepping stone into the dubstep genre for a lot of people, thereby it will add to the popularity/quality of the scene as a whole.
Seen this kind of discussions too much, especially in the hiphop-scene, and defining things into 'real' or 'not real' is just musical snobism in my opinion. If you don't like the music, don't listen to it.

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Post by pkay » Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:14 pm

seckle wrote: i don't think you have any idea the amount of work that goes into running a bbc radio show. do you honestly think, they just get sent tunes, and they go in a spin them? first off, both MAH and Bailey build relationships with producers and labels. there's a mountain full of rules and politics involved in running a show on FM.

This inspectordubplate kid just felt entitled to all that music. he put up tunes that were sometimes 8 to 9 months away from release. thats not hype or promotion. thats just taking liberties. the only work that inspectordubplate did was to click download/rip on the audio and then upload away. I guarantee he didn't even have the decency to ask most of those labels if he could upload them in the first place. you comparing him to both mah and bailey is just about the most far fetched comparisons you could've made. also, if you start using the word "hating" , "hater" or "hate" to describe my not agreeing with you or how you see this issue, then you need to look up the dictionary and find out what that word means. for that matter, anyone that uses that word in relation to regular opinion, wins the dumb and dumber award.
you missed the point about advertising, audiences, and avenues relating to your product. I wasn't comparing the persons, obviously Bailey has been doing this over a decade and has quite a bit more stature. I was simply stating that they are one of the premier avenues in which to expose their genres to people and are used accordingly... which is not a far fetched comparison.

You're making assumptions on ID's relationships with the labels and artists. You've obviously never worked with the dude, and are assuming how he operates to fit your agenda, which is you don't like the tunes he posts or don't like the avenue in which he rose to popularity. ID is on a first name basis with literally every label on that half of the spectrum.

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Post by The Peak » Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:21 pm

ramses020 wrote:I don't really understand why people are bothered with 'brostep' so much. Every music genre you love will contain movements which you won't like. I think 'brostep' is a stepping stone into the dubstep genre for a lot of people, thereby it will add to the popularity/quality of the scene as a whole.
Seen this kind of discussions too much, especially in the hiphop-scene, and defining things into 'real' or 'not real' is just musical snobism in my opinion. If you don't like the music, don't listen to it.
fair point, i got into dubstep threw rusko, caspa, funtcase etc.

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Post by seckle » Fri Jul 16, 2010 3:42 pm

pkay wrote:You're making assumptions on ID's relationships with the labels and artists. You've obviously never worked with the dude, and are assuming how he operates to fit your agenda, which is you don't like the tunes he posts or don't like the avenue in which he rose to popularity. ID is on a first name basis with literally every label on that half of the spectrum.
come on man. you're making this look like the guy is running some legit business , when the reality is he's just like thousands of other people that feel entitled to intellectual property they didn't create. first name basis? lol. alright, continue on with your promotional fantasy world. the fact is you don't get shut down on youtube unless MANY people complain, so your version of reality you've laid out here is trying to suit YOUR agenda.

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Post by pkay » Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:00 pm

seckle wrote:
pkay wrote:You're making assumptions on ID's relationships with the labels and artists. You've obviously never worked with the dude, and are assuming how he operates to fit your agenda, which is you don't like the tunes he posts or don't like the avenue in which he rose to popularity. ID is on a first name basis with literally every label on that half of the spectrum.
come on man. you're making this look like the guy is running some legit business , when the reality is he's just like thousands of other people that feel entitled to intellectual property they didn't create. first name basis? lol. alright, continue on with your promotional fantasy world. the fact is you don't get shut down on youtube unless MANY people complain, so your version of reality you've laid out here is trying to suit YOUR agenda.

Wait.... are you denying the promotional value of youtube? Literally the most popular (non search engine) website in the world? Fucking lol

I work for a decent sized gaming company. We leak gameplay footage (purposely) to specific websites, blogs, etc because we know they have the eyes and ears of our target audience. They make money off this, who fucking cares? We get an insane amount of hype and interest increases in our product.

This is a very basic concept of promoting a product.

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Post by fractal » Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:03 pm

Amazed that people are comparing this guys work with that of MAH or Bailey. Both have put in serious amounts of years of work towards the scene. The type of music he was playing/uploading is irrelevant. Next y'all will be comparing him to John peel I suppose :lol:

All about "promotion" and fuck all else huh? If people were complaining I doubt they "leaked" the material he was stealing

Tbh, I've never even heard of the guy
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Post by grotbags » Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:03 pm

pkay wrote:
seckle wrote:
pkay wrote:You're making assumptions on ID's relationships with the labels and artists. You've obviously never worked with the dude, and are assuming how he operates to fit your agenda, which is you don't like the tunes he posts or don't like the avenue in which he rose to popularity. ID is on a first name basis with literally every label on that half of the spectrum.
come on man. you're making this look like the guy is running some legit business , when the reality is he's just like thousands of other people that feel entitled to intellectual property they didn't create. first name basis? lol. alright, continue on with your promotional fantasy world. the fact is you don't get shut down on youtube unless MANY people complain, so your version of reality you've laid out here is trying to suit YOUR agenda.

Wait.... are you denying the promotional value of youtube? Literally the most popular (non search engine) website in the world? Fucking lol

I work for a decent sized gaming company. We leak gameplay footage (purposely) to specific websites, blogs, etc because we know they have the eyes and ears of our target audience. They make money off this, who fucking cares? We get an insane amount of hype and interest increases in our product.

This is a very basic concept of promoting a product.
Labels aren't capable of promoting them selfs? Is it not possible to promote a tune with a 2min version as opposed to the full tune?

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Post by pkay » Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:06 pm

grotbags wrote: Labels aren't capable of promoting them selfs? Is it not possible to promote a tune with a 2min version as opposed to the full tune?
Most labels don't have a million profile view youtube channels.

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Post by grotbags » Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:11 pm

pkay wrote:
grotbags wrote: Labels aren't capable of promoting them selfs? Is it not possible to promote a tune with a 2min version as opposed to the full tune?
Most labels don't have a million profile view youtube channels.
Labels aren't capable of promoting them selfs? Is it not possible to promote a tune with a 2min version as opposed to the full tune?

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Post by Woony » Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:23 pm

seckle wrote:
pkay wrote:You're making assumptions on ID's relationships with the labels and artists. You've obviously never worked with the dude, and are assuming how he operates to fit your agenda, which is you don't like the tunes he posts or don't like the avenue in which he rose to popularity. ID is on a first name basis with literally every label on that half of the spectrum.
come on man. you're making this look like the guy is running some legit business , when the reality is he's just like thousands of other people that feel entitled to intellectual property they didn't create. first name basis? lol. alright, continue on with your promotional fantasy world. the fact is you don't get shut down on youtube unless MANY people complain, so your version of reality you've laid out here is trying to suit YOUR agenda.
He was an "official promoter" for Doctor P, Borgore, Circus etc. Which is fair on a artist/label perspective, why not promote your music on a channel that hundreds of thousands of people watch closely? That's all Pkay is trying to say, it's good promotion to hand your tunes to someone who reaches a lot of people. In this aspect MAH/Baily etc. and Inspector Duplate are the same, they get handed exclusive material because they reach a lot of people.

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Post by qwaycee_ » Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:03 pm

grotbags wrote:
pkay wrote:
grotbags wrote: Labels aren't capable of promoting them selfs? Is it not possible to promote a tune with a 2min version as opposed to the full tune?
Most labels don't have a million profile view youtube channels.
Labels aren't capable of promoting them selfs? Is it not possible to promote a tune with a 2min version as opposed to the full tune?
:lol:

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Post by say_whut » Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:21 pm

I am a bit annoyed at his channel being taken down, as it was probably the best channel for the latest and best quality tracks. Think about it, dubstep is massive via the internet.
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Post by cornishidiot » Fri Jul 16, 2010 5:46 pm

So... When did you all become Dubstep Kings?

I joined this forum purely to make this comment cos no-one else has.
I don't get what all the slating is about.. The guys been moderately successful, one way or another hes done it. We all know how the game works, it sucks and its unfair. Alot of people need to stop speaking above themselves and face facts as oppose to generating sketchy insults from every single possible flaw in someone else's techniques. It's naive and arrogant and it makes you look stupid.

As for his channel in general, it's a Youtube channel. It does exactly what the other however many million channels do.
I'd like to think you'll be continuing tradition and creating a bitchy thread for every single other channel that ever gets suspended in space and time, because that's about the equality ratio of what this thread actually stands for.

Big up everyone else that stuck up for the guy. Hes done 'out wrong.

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Post by J__J_90 » Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:07 pm

This thread :lol:

And that facebook page :lol: :lol: :lol:

Still think the fake Mt Eden youtube account takes some beating though.

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Post by Ady Aka Slippa » Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:23 pm

grotbags wrote:
pkay wrote:
seckle wrote:
pkay wrote:You're making assumptions on ID's relationships with the labels and artists. You've obviously never worked with the dude, and are assuming how he operates to fit your agenda, which is you don't like the tunes he posts or don't like the avenue in which he rose to popularity. ID is on a first name basis with literally every label on that half of the spectrum.
come on man. you're making this look like the guy is running some legit business , when the reality is he's just like thousands of other people that feel entitled to intellectual property they didn't create. first name basis? lol. alright, continue on with your promotional fantasy world. the fact is you don't get shut down on youtube unless MANY people complain, so your version of reality you've laid out here is trying to suit YOUR agenda.

Wait.... are you denying the promotional value of youtube? Literally the most popular (non search engine) website in the world? Fucking lol

I work for a decent sized gaming company. We leak gameplay footage (purposely) to specific websites, blogs, etc because we know they have the eyes and ears of our target audience. They make money off this, who fucking cares? We get an insane amount of hype and interest increases in our product.

This is a very basic concept of promoting a product.
Labels aren't capable of promoting them selfs? Is it not possible to promote a tune with a 2min version as opposed to the full tune?
yea but labels dont promote to any tom dick and harry such as youtube channels would.... and plus nowadays most people dont have a really good intellectual understanding on how to listen to different types of music so any kid thats just searching up the word " Dubstep " into youtube... the supposed junk that might come up will be there automatic definition of dubstep and they will like it without understand the true elements of the music. Plus promoting music through youtube has made the scene totally marketable thats how you get a load of pants and unnecessary dubstep producers nowadays making it harder for really good and unbelievable producers to shine.

But then again would we listen to our favorite producers the same way if it was more mainstream....

Its a debate that will never be settled...

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Post by seckle » Fri Jul 16, 2010 6:46 pm

cornishidiot wrote:and face facts
what facts exactly? lol
the only "fact" is that the guy got his page shutdown, and a whole bunch of people( yourself included) are trying to martyr it as some injustice to the world. if you type in "dubstep" into youtube right now, everything on ID's channel is replicated several times over on other channels, so this whole thing is a storm in a teacup.

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Post by mikey_g » Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:01 pm

i dont see why everyones so bothered - there's more than enough tunes on youtube and everywhere that are legally hosted. whats the big hurry in hearing a shitty rip of a new plate?



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Post by cornishidiot » Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:21 pm

seckle wrote:
cornishidiot wrote:and face facts
what facts exactly? lol
the only "fact" is that the guy got his page shutdown, and a whole bunch of people( yourself included) are trying to martyr it as some injustice to the world.
... Thats a completely useless contradiction. It has about zero relevance to anything that I said. Did you try reading it properly? Also I fail to recognise where I included myself in the minority of 'a whole bunch of people' I simply summarised this whole situation and pointed out the fact

Reference - (http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=define ... =firefox-a)

That he hasn't potentially/directly done anything wrong to you or most of the other people included in this conversation to deserve all this bad mouthing.

Fact.

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Post by cornishidiot » Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:32 pm

Oh yeah and what the heck is all this reference to Brostep?? Hahaha that's just plain funny.
Brostep - Source Urban Dictionary.com

Brostep is a relatively new sub-genre of music (born out of Dubstep) with an emphasis on a mid-range bass sound with mutating LFO speed.
Dubstep "purists", while not happy, only have themselves to blame as they should have realized that the most accesable elements of any genre will always end up being at the center of a new subgenre.
Unforunately these people do not seem to realize that it would be in traditional dubstep's best interest for there to be as many people making poor facsimiles of the "dubstep" genre as there are the "brostep" genre as it would be an indicator that people are actually still interested in the style to which they dedicate their future hearing loss.
"Wow, this club got a lot more fun when that brostep DJ took over. All the frowning guys in black turltenecks went to go get another mojito and the dance floor got filled with hot girls"
^ Funny and true ^

Since when was there laws on what people can and can't produce/listen to without pissing a whole community off? ...Weird.
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Post by fractal » Fri Jul 16, 2010 7:38 pm

wow
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