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Post by misk » Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:19 am

DnB isnt constricting, just the people who try to box it in.

we'll see a resurgence of good DnB...

but right now its "all noisia mix!"

gross.

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Post by thenn3 » Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:29 am

i think outside looking in it looks constricting because of how badly an attempt to break a mould is accepted by the 'top' guys. same goes for any scene... its just that the dnb scene has been going for so long, that being a big part of it is almost an ethereal experience, and not one they want to be shaken from.

oh, and yes - 'producer' is another fanboi thing.

like 'yeah i mc innit'... holding a mic an spitting lyrics doesnt make you an mc.

sitting in front of an mpc / reason / cubase / a midi workstation tapping some butons.. doesnt make you a producer.

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Post by misk » Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:29 am

thenn3 wrote:i think outside looking in it looks constricting because of how badly an attempt to break a mould is accepted by the 'top' guys. same goes for any scene... its just that the dnb scene has been going for so long, that being a big part of it is almost an ethereal experience, and not one they want to be shaken from.

oh, and yes - 'producer' is another fanboi thing.

like 'yeah i mc innit'... holding a mic an spitting lyrics doesnt make you an mc.

sitting in front of an mpc / reason / cubase / a midi workstation tapping some butons.. doesnt make you a producer.
true this!

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Post by deadly_habit » Thu Mar 01, 2007 3:47 am

Misk wrote:DnB isnt constricting, just the people who try to box it in.

we'll see a resurgence of good DnB...

but right now its "all noisia mix!"

gross.
ie not tooting my own horn
tune of the month concord dawn issue synesthesia
160 bpm jazz n bass
labels liked but most said speed it up to 172 or more to which i said fuck you
and believe me i hit the spectrum and have major producers playing it
now im pressing it myself
personally a constraint of dnb not genre or style wise but tempo wise now

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Post by misk » Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:07 am

Deadly Habit wrote:
Misk wrote:DnB isnt constricting, just the people who try to box it in.

we'll see a resurgence of good DnB...

but right now its "all noisia mix!"

gross.
ie not tooting my own horn
tune of the month concord dawn issue synesthesia
160 bpm jazz n bass
labels liked but most said speed it up to 172 or more to which i said fuck you
and believe me i hit the spectrum and have major producers playing it
now im pressing it myself
personally a constraint of dnb not genre or style wise but tempo wise now
that sucks man, but its cool to hear that your taking matters into your own hands for sure. its sad to see good music never getting exposed due to a third party's perspective of what they think music should be.

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Post by deadly_habit » Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:13 am

Misk wrote:
Deadly Habit wrote:
Misk wrote:DnB isnt constricting, just the people who try to box it in.

we'll see a resurgence of good DnB...

but right now its "all noisia mix!"

gross.
ie not tooting my own horn
tune of the month concord dawn issue synesthesia
160 bpm jazz n bass
labels liked but most said speed it up to 172 or more to which i said fuck you
and believe me i hit the spectrum and have major producers playing it
now im pressing it myself
personally a constraint of dnb not genre or style wise but tempo wise now
that sucks man, but its cool to hear that your taking matters into your own hands for sure. its sad to see good music never getting exposed due to a third party's perspective of what they think music should be.
way dnb goes
somehow subvert central vol 1 300 press has yet to sell out
most labels taking risks are still readily avail
hell peep soothsayers and they hit beyond dnb and risked on fanu back when

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Post by foamo » Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:28 pm

surely they wanted you to speed it up, jus so DJs would play it?

you need your tunes to be similar to other tunes.. so it gets into DJ sets for exposure, and so ppl buy it.. almost all people buy dnb vinyl cos they wanna mix with it.

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Post by thenn3 » Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:47 pm

Foamo wrote:surely they wanted you to speed it up, jus so DJs would play it?

you need your tunes to be similar to other tunes.. so it gets into DJ sets for exposure, and so ppl buy it.. almost all people buy dnb vinyl cos they wanna mix with it.
yeah, i would say so...

its just a matter of having to market the track. they wont want to press something that wont sell because no-one can mix with it..

imo

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Post by jason burns » Thu Mar 01, 2007 8:23 pm

if djing is like riding a bike, production is like riding a unicycle on a tightrope.

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Post by decklyn » Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:16 am

It's like all art.

First you learn how to draw. You learn how to emulate the world around you.

Once you can draw an orange, then you can innovate and a page becomes something which will end up expressing something beautiful, skillfully crafted.

But until you can draw that orange, which has been drawn 10000000000 times before, you can't innovate.

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Post by parson » Fri Mar 02, 2007 1:21 am

to me production is like djing but with more freedom

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Post by misk » Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:24 pm

decklyn wrote:It's like all art.

First you learn how to draw. You learn how to emulate the world around you.

Once you can draw an orange, then you can innovate and a page becomes something which will end up expressing something beautiful, skillfully crafted.

But until you can draw that orange, which has been drawn 10000000000 times before, you can't innovate.
i like you. you are cool.

these are my thoughts exactly...

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Post by kins83 » Fri Mar 02, 2007 6:02 pm

decklyn wrote:It's like all art.

First you learn how to draw. You learn how to emulate the world around you.

Once you can draw an orange, then you can innovate and a page becomes something which will end up expressing something beautiful, skillfully crafted.

But until you can draw that orange, which has been drawn 10000000000 times before, you can't innovate.
Very well put. I'm only on my second orange...
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Post by thump rat » Fri Mar 02, 2007 8:00 pm

I like to run my orange through a low pass filter and sync it to the LFO innart.

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