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Post by thierry_le_dj » Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:04 pm

i know these days there's like serato and traktor and etc

and digital has taken over

but do you think vinyl will come back again?

like in the future there a change dj's would just like the old vinyl again instead of the cdj's,serato,traktor and etc?

i know most vinyl store i use to go to has shut down here..

i actually don't even know any where to buy vinyl these days.

does vinyl still sale alright on your side of the world?

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Post by robbiej » Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:18 pm

vinyl is doin just fine...people have been saying this stuff since cassette's...then cd's...now software....since it was once the dominant music format in the world its hard to compare its sales figures today with its figures in the 70's, but at a market share of about 5% (having not looked that # up) and strong loyalty from its users, vinyl does and will continue to be a viable specialist/alternative medium.

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Post by hakka » Fri Jul 16, 2010 12:33 pm

Yeah vinyl is still going strong. I buy all my vinyl and put them on cd to preserve the record and because i find CD's easier to carry to and from gigs. Couple of record shops here in Birmingham UK that stock most Drum & Bass / Dubstep.
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Re: Vinyl

Post by JFK » Fri Jul 16, 2010 1:33 pm

Vinyl is the best medium for bass heavy music.

Full Fucking Stop.

It will never die, still sells well in the UK. To such an extent that some tunes are available on nothing else (Return 2 Space being a good example)

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Post by volcanogeorge » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:17 pm

JFK wrote:Vinyl is the best medium for bass heavy music.

Full Fucking Stop.

It will never die, still sells well in the UK. To such an extent that some tunes are available on nothing else (Return 2 Space being a good example)
This.

Plus lets see you do this with CD's.
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Post by Basic A » Fri Jul 16, 2010 8:28 pm

Haha, itll never be the mainstream go to format again, but, its never gonna lose its niche either.

The day a digital format can replacethe feeling of holding a carved set of sound waves... The feeling for the listener buying it, not to MENTION the artist making it... when thats gone...

Ill accept its dead.

But fact remains, its the only medium you cant practically pirate, its the only medium which doesnt have a bit rate, its the only medium you can scratch, and its the only medium that cant be made by any old jackass in his bedroom (which really that n piracy are the REASON its not go-to anymore)

Its to special to ever die.
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Post by JemGrover » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:07 pm

volcanogeorge wrote:
JFK wrote:Vinyl is the best medium for bass heavy music.

Full Fucking Stop.

It will never die, still sells well in the UK. To such an extent that some tunes are available on nothing else (Return 2 Space being a good example)
This.

Plus lets see you do this with CD's.
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Post by volcanogeorge » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:20 pm

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Post by Phigure » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:21 pm

there's no stores here at all, besides amoeba which is like 80 minutes away or thrift or antique stores
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Re: Vinyl

Post by nowaysj » Fri Jul 16, 2010 11:38 pm

Can't buy dubstep vinyl locally.

Thinking of starting a limited run vinyl only label.

Will learn to dj with dvs. Dvs is the way forward because it allows you to play vinyl, and digital only tracks together.

I think vinyl's share of the market is going to expand in the near and long term. Despite what venerable people within the industry say.
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Post by collige » Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:04 am

Basic A wrote: But fact remains, its the only medium you cant practically pirate,
I agree with your post except for this. I found great sounding rips of Return II Space the day after it came out (I only looked out of curiosity of course; I pre-ordered my copy on redeye the second you could.)
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Post by Phigure » Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:24 am

collige wrote:
Basic A wrote: But fact remains, its the only medium you cant practically pirate,
I agree with your post except for this. I found great sounding rips of Return II Space the day after it came out (I only looked out of curiosity of course; I pre-ordered my copy on redeye the second you could.)
i think he meant that you can't pirate the physical record itself

and yeah, I had 320's of Return II Space just before it came out "officially" (I bought the vinyl though)
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Re: Vinyl

Post by samurai » Sat Jul 17, 2010 2:34 am

vinyl will never make a true come back. tiny spikes here and there but digital is the future. and the future is now.

i, probably like a lot of people here, have a lot of wax sitting around that i haven't converted into any digital format. it's a pain in the face to rip. it's big and heavy and bulky. yeah it looks cool. but if truth be told i would offload most of it. but that's impossible because nobody would take it. i even have tons of fucking doubles because of beat juggling. taking up space in my bedroom. when i need to move there is going to be a serious problem. problem with physical items. that goes for music hardware too.

i think that vinyl sales could run into a problem in the next couple of years because of the fact that young DJs coming up now don't purchase vinyl. with the rise in popularity and complete dominance of DVSs and programs like ableton it's becoming quite a rare thing to see a vinyl only set. it started with CDJs, then it moved onto DVSs and now with something like ableton kids who want to DJ have no real reason to get decks and a mixer.

damn lucky fucking kids.

kids ruin everything.

so we'll be left with a couple of people who really like the format. those people will be left with the responsibility of keeping it alive.

i don't know tbh. i still prefer hearing a set and seeing a set where it's just the DJ with decks and a mixer. no laptop. no cdjs. when cdjs and dvss started becoming popular i thought it was weak. most (not all) of the digital DJs i'm hearing now are doing stuff that could be done on turntables with wax. technology makes things easier and makes people lazier.

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Post by DEMZ » Sat Jul 17, 2010 3:49 am

thierry_le_dj wrote:i actually don't even know any where to buy vinyl these days.

does vinyl still sale alright on your side of the world?
Plenty of places to buy vinyl in Sydney man, your not looking hard enough :wink:
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Re: Vinyl

Post by nowaysj » Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:08 am

Is there a quality online vinyl retailer based in the US?
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Post by collige » Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:49 am

nowaysj wrote:Is there a quality online vinyl retailer based in the US?
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Re: Vinyl

Post by nowaysj » Sat Jul 17, 2010 5:25 am

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Re: Vinyl

Post by qiao » Sat Jul 17, 2010 6:28 am

samurai wrote: i don't know tbh. i still prefer hearing a set and seeing a set where it's just the DJ with decks and a mixer. no laptop. no cdjs. when cdjs and dvss started becoming popular i thought it was weak. most (not all) of the digital DJs i'm hearing now are doing stuff that could be done on turntables with wax. technology makes things easier and makes people lazier.
i agree with you about sets with no laptop involved, i hate seeing someone spinning and half of the time is spent staring at their screen. but is there really much of a difference between seeing someone spin vinyl only or spin on CDJs, aside from seeing him a flip a record every now and then?

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Re: Vinyl

Post by thierry_le_dj » Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:01 am

qiao wrote:
samurai wrote: i don't know tbh. i still prefer hearing a set and seeing a set where it's just the DJ with decks and a mixer. no laptop. no cdjs. when cdjs and dvss started becoming popular i thought it was weak. most (not all) of the digital DJs i'm hearing now are doing stuff that could be done on turntables with wax. technology makes things easier and makes people lazier.
i agree with you about sets with no laptop involved, i hate seeing someone spinning and half of the time is spent staring at their screen. but is there really much of a difference between seeing someone spin vinyl only or spin on CDJs, aside from seeing him a flip a record every now and then?
i also agree here but i still prefer turntables then cdj's but some people say the recording quality is better on vinyl then mp3's.

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