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Atari style beeps?

Post by finji » Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:51 am

You know the type, often used by Zomby, Eskmo, Damu etc. I use fruity loops so i'm struggling to find anything that sounds right, thanks!
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Re: Atari style beeps?

Post by Phigure » Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:03 am

this is a pretty neat one that someone posted here once

http://www.drpetter.se/project_sfxr.html



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Re: Atari style beeps?

Post by JemGrover » Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:12 am

Google "Basic64"

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Re: Atari style beeps?

Post by wayoftheworld » Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:35 am

no synthesis tips?

not that im particularly great at this sort of thing, but square waves + arps + mucking about with envelopes and subtle fx should be a pretty good starting point.
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Re: Atari style beeps?

Post by JBE » Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:00 am

Basic64 should give you the exact sounds you are looking for.

http://www.delamancha.co.uk/basic.htm

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Post by cloak and dagger » Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:50 am

wayoftheworld wrote:no synthesis tips?

not that im particularly great at this sort of thing, but square waves + arps + mucking about with envelopes and subtle fx should be a pretty good starting point.

I honestly always end up making these kinds of sounds a different way each time, often times by accident....square waves are the easiest way to get a recognizable sound, but Nintendos also had sine and triangle wave generators as well...so it's worth just experimenting with. I find that these sounds are only difficult if you're starting from presets or thinking too complexly - start with one oscillator, move to two after you're satisfied, and from there just tweak to your taste.

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Re: Atari style beeps?

Post by grooki » Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:21 am

cloak and dagger wrote:
wayoftheworld wrote:no synthesis tips?

not that im particularly great at this sort of thing, but square waves + arps + mucking about with envelopes and subtle fx should be a pretty good starting point.

I honestly always end up making these kinds of sounds a different way each time, often times by accident....square waves are the easiest way to get a recognizable sound, but Nintendos also had sine and triangle wave generators as well...so it's worth just experimenting with. I find that these sounds are only difficult if you're starting from presets or thinking too complexly - start with one oscillator, move to two after you're satisfied, and from there just tweak to your taste.
Yes it seems like with these sounds it's the simplest approach. I would turn off all the fx and have just one or maybe two oscillators, to get very raw and unprocessed sounds. It might be good to use a basic synth too to avoid being tempted by complexity.

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Re: Atari style beeps?

Post by wayoftheworld » Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:25 am

eprom gave some nice tips more about the rhythmic aspect of bleepy melodies:
as an exercise, try writing a melody on 1/8 notes at a slow bpm on your keyboard, with normal, sustained notes, and then shortening the notes and speeding up the song. then move the notes off the 1/8 notes here and there to make it sound more funky and random. the key here is funk, not randomness.
here's another trick: pick a scale. write your bassline in that scale. pick a melody synth (lead). record yourself playing ONE NOTE and make it sound as funky as you possibly can with just ONE note. the idea is to get a funky rhythm for the melody, then add the actual melodic variation later. you might want to picture yourself playing a woodblock or cowbell. melody is as much about rhythm as it is about the notes. then move the notes by hand onto other notes in the same scale or mode as the bassline. instant funk for those who can't actually play keyboards for shit (i.e. me)
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Re: Atari style beeps?

Post by andihow » Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:29 am

http://www.preromanbritain.com/ymvst/

my good sir i think this is exactly what you need. look no further.

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Re: Atari style beeps?

Post by sully_harmitage » Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:31 pm

i've got THE sample pack zomby use(d) for his gloop sound, will dig it out...
pretty interesting to see the milage you can get out of one sound

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Re: Atari style beeps?

Post by killahbeez » Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:47 pm

does anyone know of any chiptunes/8bit synths that are quality and easy to use?

all chiptunes vsts I've toyed around with are impossibly user-unfriendly

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Re: Atari style beeps?

Post by andihow » Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:32 pm

killahbeez wrote:does anyone know of any chiptunes/8bit synths that are quality and easy to use?

all chiptunes vsts I've toyed around with are impossibly user-unfriendly

google "tweak bench vst's"

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Re: Atari style beeps?

Post by killahbeez » Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:35 pm

^good looking on response.

I'll check it out tonight when I'm in session

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Re: Atari style beeps?

Post by killahbeez » Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:39 pm

andihow wrote:"tweak bench vst's"
any of their stuff you think I should check out in particular?

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Re: Atari style beeps?

Post by Basic A » Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:50 pm

Squares with saw harmonics. hipass it.

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Follow idea one, synth beeps, put through bending interface vst.
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Post by DZA » Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:54 pm

Basic A wrote:Squares with saw harmonics. hipass it.
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8 bits sounds are just variations of square waves
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Post by Mad_EP » Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:11 pm

Once you have your sounds, sometimes it helps to add a lil white noise or bit crush it further... Often times, even when using similar synthesis techniques, the modern synths we use to re-create those sounds are "too clean".
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Re: Atari style beeps?

Post by th@-pu$$y » Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:14 am

Check out soundboard.com . There's a section with tons of old video game including atari samples............Really great sample site all around it's a fuckin jackpot. :h:

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Re: Atari style beeps?

Post by jsills » Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:03 pm

Plouge Chipsounds KILLS all the free 8bit vsts. :z: myself!

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