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Digital Downloads and the future of Dubstep

Post by thesimonpure » Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:25 pm

OK - I'm sure this has been talked about...but I'm too lazy to search more than a few minutes. I realize I'm opening up myself to be hated on - but I've got to ask.

Why do we have to wait so long for mp3's of the latest sik plates?

I get why vinyl is considered tops...but most of these tewns are made digitally on computers anyway. I realize that I'm insatiable and that good things come to those who wait - but I'm tired of fast forwarding my one track mixes to hear "punks" or "crunked up". There are a lot of us who don't do vinyl and I don't think we should be punished. (God I'm a whiner)

I want to spread the love - Dubstep is the greatest. Very few people know about it where I come from. But I'm not a DJ, and don't have the want to get into vinyl. I want all of the incredible artists to get paid for their work. Should I have to drop $100 for 5 plates?

I gotz luv for all the dj's and producers "keepin it real" - but what do you think would happen if everything was available to purchase digitally right from the get go?

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Post by oopu » Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:36 pm

import mon, exclusive mon, straight from J to me, oh fat larry someone musta skanked you---ding dong ding ding dong

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Re: Digital Downloads and the future of Dubstep

Post by autonomic » Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:40 pm

TheSimonPure wrote:I'm sure this has been talked about...but I'm too lazy to search more than a few minutes.
your problem and solution right there.

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Post by thesimonpure » Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:44 pm

eye C!

Please don't take my question as disrepektin' the forum.

Just a question.

I guess I get the exclusive thang' - It's just hard for me to wait. I'm like a kid in the candystore with a pocket full of money - but the owner tells me to come back in 6 months.

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Post by dermike » Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:58 pm

I decided to release the first Redvolume release on vinyl and digital at the same time, and so far it's only the vinyl that sells good... so probably not gonna care as much for digital when releasing the next one if this trend continues. ;)

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Post by ozeb » Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:01 pm

Records are tangible objects. MP3's are digital files. Labels like to leave a window between physical and electronic releases so as to create a slight barrier to piracy...

In order to pirate a record, someone would have to digitize a 12". Granted that's easy to do these days but luckily most deejays buying 12s respect the artists and will not circulate their work. I know a few friends who digitize their records just for CDJ convenience but would never THINK of handing those tracks to anyone to play without purchase.

That's my theory anyway (and the resulting assumption of a discussion we had had with the Pressing Issues crew).

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Post by thesimonpure » Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:04 pm

Very insightful...

I guess gettin' it now.

Thanks for the response.

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Post by seckle » Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:18 pm

please please please....use the search function.

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Post by autonomic » Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:19 pm

sorry, it's just that this has been discussed at length several times and you'd do better to read through what people have already taken the time to write than start it from scratch again. no disrespect intended but that's what archives and search buttons are there for.

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Post by thesimonpure » Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:22 pm

Point taken...

Thanks again

Peace :o

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Post by seckle » Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:25 pm

there are nearly 15 massive threads about mp3's and dubplates. it's like watching paint dry.

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Post by autonomic » Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:27 pm

:lol:

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Post by thesimonpure » Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:30 pm

tanks fellas...

I hereby vow to never waste the time my bruz' on da forum again...

I will search dilligently for questions I have...

I will not be a debbie downer...

Rispekt!

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Post by bob crunkhouse » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:37 am

yeh this has been talked about before, and it does make sense.

what dosent make sense though is when a tune is officially released on vinyl and it dosent get an mp3 release, theres so many tunes that aint avaliable for non vinyl buyers, i dont understand it, its good for the labels (money) and good for the listeners (happiness!)
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Post by ytee » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:38 am

seckle wrote:there are nearly 15 massive threads about mp3's and dubplates. it's like watching paint dry.
:lol: :lol: so true!

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Post by bunzer0 » Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:20 am

dermike wrote:I decided to release the first Redvolume release on vinyl and digital at the same time, and so far it's only the vinyl that sells good... so probably not gonna care as much for digital when releasing the next one if this trend continues. ;)

clever ad :-)

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Post by skrewface » Mon Mar 05, 2007 1:26 am

unF! :x

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Post by dermike » Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:59 am

BunZer0 wrote:
dermike wrote:I decided to release the first Redvolume release on vinyl and digital at the same time, and so far it's only the vinyl that sells good... so probably not gonna care as much for digital when releasing the next one if this trend continues. ;)

clever ad :-)
Heh, it's true though. So far there's really no economic reason to do it, plus it's already been pirated. :/
..but you also now I'm very impatient. ;)

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Post by Steve AC23 » Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:10 am

you cant hug mp3s.

case closed.

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Post by kidkut » Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:59 am

Signing up with digital services is not as easy as as some of you may think, there is alot of paper work/contracts behind the scenes. Take into account that digital downloads is some thing you have to build up over a long time, i.e. before people realise you do it etc you get very minimal payout from them (if it ever increases at all) compared to the amount of effort to sign up.

To give you some idea (this is not the same for all services mind):

Contracts to be read over/signed
Some require ISRC codes, which means you must be signed up with the PPL (which some smaller labels arent)
Track meta data to fill out and return
Tracks to send with artwork.

If you take into account all of the above done via royal mail in alot of cases (why they dont all have ftp amazes me) and then see say £10 a month coming back.. you can see why people might not be arsed...

Anway, i'm in the process of signing up with 12 services at the mo (2 are done www.beatsdigital.com and www.digital-tunes.net) as im looking at it as more getting things into the ether and raising awareness of the label as opposed to making any money from it.

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Although as i know some of the people from more established labels, this can turn into a good revenue stream, it just takes a while to build.

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