stuck in a rut

[budsteq]

im tryna make a phat bass drop right now, i get some mad sounds coming out of my synths but when i make them wobble, it's so much of a mission to create an actual bassline with different speed wobbles. there must be an easier way to make my bass wobble at alot of different speeds rather than have to add alot of the same synth an have the speed different on each one. i am using FL studio btw

[faultier]

automation ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeXbOdEsg2c

[budsteq]

thanks, just what i was looking for.

[steeze]

It is tricky trying to sync your wobbles while switching between a lot of different rates (unless your using reason) and it can interrupt the creative flow. What I find easiest to do is have a very clear idea in my head of how I want the bassline to sound before I start laying anything down, maybe try just singing how you want it to sound, or if you don't want to embarrass yourself and play an instrument then come up with something on said instrument. I find it much easier to pick up my guitar and write a bassline than sit and aimlessly input midi data into multiple synth channels until I find something that sort of works.

[AnalGangstaHo]

Try recording lts of different rates and then chop the audio.

[budsteq]

cheers guys, i just learnt automation, an yeah i play the guitar i often create melodys on it then recreate them in FL.

[amphibian]

hehe, all you need is the right terminology then suddenly you can research til your heart's content

[BigFatMonkey]

I've had problems with this too. Having to create different synths is a pain, especially if they're all making exactly the same sound. Eats up cpu on my laptop too! I tend not to use automation, mainly because it's a bit of a pain to use in Logic and I've found it hard to get a clean transition when moving from one speed to another quickly.

What i often do is just play separate midi notes at different speeds, rather than one long note with an LFO on. Gives a slightly different sound, less wobbly but by adjusting the attack and release and sometimes using an LFO just to affect the attack can really work well. It doesn't work for everything but sounds just as good, sometimes better than an LFO wobble.

[jaydot]

Make several basslines, chop, automate, bounce and rearrange.

Arpeggiators are good and I sometimes use the sync rate on them as a substitute for LFOs.

[grooki]

In FL, a couple of tools that I have recently discovered that make making different wobbles/warping sounds are the Keyboard Controller, and the Envelope Controller.
basically, for the keyboard controller, you can hook up a Control Channel to your LFO rate. This means that you can sequence the change of wobble rates with notes in the piano roll (that each correspond to a different wobble rate), rather than automaton. You can do similar thing with the envelope controllers for more organic sounding wobbles.
Way way easier than automaton (although the LFO option in the edit events window is also pretty nifty).

There are a couple of threads in which I wrote down the exact steps to hooking it up/