Why can't dubstep be clean?

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Re: Why can't dubstep be clean?

Post by chico_red » Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:38 pm

DZA wrote:Please do
I just did

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Re: Why can't dubstep be clean?

Post by ashley » Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:39 pm

I have a struggle reading too sometimes.

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Re: Why can't dubstep be clean?

Post by DZA » Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:39 pm

I missed it the first time
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Re: Why can't dubstep be clean?

Post by guttamouf » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:22 am

.onelove. wrote:'Clean' conjures up images of commercially produced auto-tuned pop music that is catchy but has no depth.

'Filthy/Grimey' makes you think of dark gritty South London basements with rough basslines rebounding off the walls.


Although the word 'Filthy' has now sort of been reserved by the morons who like the chainsaw clownstep Dubstep that the Circus crew etc. produce
i agree with everything up until "chainsaw clownstep that circus crew produce"

cookie monsta is the shit, his bass is fucking LEGIT, and his drum tracks are complex and heavy as shit.

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Re: Why can't dubstep be clean?

Post by fretn » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:26 am

chico, you are a ignorant idiot.
chazer wrote:most of visitors were shocked by horrible Zombys mixing skills (he didn't even try)
they called him "iPod in mask"
:lol:

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Re: Why can't dubstep be clean?

Post by chico_red » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:37 am

fretn wrote:chico, you are a ignorant idiot.
And you're a frenchman with a stupid accent!
So then, if we are to resort to namecalling you prick, what makes me so ignorant here? Please elaborate instead of just pasting empty statements.

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Re: Why can't dubstep be clean?

Post by fretn » Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:53 am

chico_red wrote:
fretn wrote:chico, you are a ignorant idiot.
And you're a frenchman with a stupid accent!
So then, if we are to resort to namecalling you prick, what makes me so ignorant here? Please elaborate instead of just pasting empty statements.
because you don't know shit about dubstep. Above all I'm not from france, and I don't even speak french... like the most people in Belgium.

Benga & Skream do spin/produce the occasional filth, but they can do more than that. I stil need to see an eyes down thing from doctor p or funtcase...
chazer wrote:most of visitors were shocked by horrible Zombys mixing skills (he didn't even try)
they called him "iPod in mask"
:lol:

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Re: Why can't dubstep be clean?

Post by chico_red » Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:06 am

fretn wrote:
chico_red wrote:
fretn wrote:chico, you are a ignorant idiot.
And you're a frenchman with a stupid accent!
So then, if we are to resort to namecalling you prick, what makes me so ignorant here? Please elaborate instead of just pasting empty statements.
because you don't know shit about dubstep. Above all I'm not from france, and I don't even speak french... like the most people in Belgium.

Benga & Skream do spin/produce the occasional filth, but they can do more than that. I stil need to see an eyes down thing from doctor p or funtcase...
"don't know shit about dubstep" is again an empty statement! You have to do better than that!
I did not say you were from france... I think you didn't understand. OK so if you don't speak French, then you must be a dutchman with a stupid accent? ;)
I know what Benga, Skream, Plastician & N-Type play and I was referring to the statement that someone called anyone who likes Circus tunes a moron. These guys drop Circus tunes and are certainly not considered as morons in the scene.

I don't think you actually know what point you are trying to make, so best drop it really! You like your Scuba and Kimbie stuff, and if that turns you on, then good for you!

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Re: Why can't dubstep be clean?

Post by fretn » Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:10 am

chico_red wrote:
fretn wrote:
chico_red wrote:
fretn wrote:chico, you are a ignorant idiot.
And you're a frenchman with a stupid accent!
So then, if we are to resort to namecalling you prick, what makes me so ignorant here? Please elaborate instead of just pasting empty statements.
because you don't know shit about dubstep. Above all I'm not from france, and I don't even speak french... like the most people in Belgium.

Benga & Skream do spin/produce the occasional filth, but they can do more than that. I stil need to see an eyes down thing from doctor p or funtcase...
"don't know shit about dubstep" is again an empty statement! You have to do better than that!
I did not say you were from france... I think you didn't understand. OK so if you don't speak French, then you must be a dutchman with a stupid accent? ;)
I know what Benga, Skream, Plastician & N-Type play and I was referring to the statement that someone called anyone who likes Circus tunes a moron. These guys drop Circus tunes and are certainly not considered as morons in the scene.

I don't think you actually know what point you are trying to make, so best drop it really! You like your Scuba and Kimbie stuff, and if that turns you on, then good for you!
I listen to every kind of dubstep, occasionaly some filth. but to be honest stuff like coki's Chief Dub & his productions will always be better than the best try by the circus.
chazer wrote:most of visitors were shocked by horrible Zombys mixing skills (he didn't even try)
they called him "iPod in mask"
:lol:

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Re: Why can't dubstep be clean?

Post by chico_red » Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:18 am

fretn wrote:
chico_red wrote:
fretn wrote:
chico_red wrote:
fretn wrote:chico, you are a ignorant idiot.
And you're a frenchman with a stupid accent!
So then, if we are to resort to namecalling you prick, what makes me so ignorant here? Please elaborate instead of just pasting empty statements.
because you don't know shit about dubstep. Above all I'm not from france, and I don't even speak french... like the most people in Belgium.

Benga & Skream do spin/produce the occasional filth, but they can do more than that. I stil need to see an eyes down thing from doctor p or funtcase...
"don't know shit about dubstep" is again an empty statement! You have to do better than that!
I did not say you were from france... I think you didn't understand. OK so if you don't speak French, then you must be a dutchman with a stupid accent? ;)
I know what Benga, Skream, Plastician & N-Type play and I was referring to the statement that someone called anyone who likes Circus tunes a moron. These guys drop Circus tunes and are certainly not considered as morons in the scene.

I don't think you actually know what point you are trying to make, so best drop it really! You like your Scuba and Kimbie stuff, and if that turns you on, then good for you!
I listen to every kind of dubstep, occasionaly some filth. but to be honest stuff like coki's Chief Dub & his productions will always be better than the best try by the circus.
This is waay beside the point now! You can't have a whole set of Coki productions unless you're Coki himself!

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Re: Why can't dubstep be clean?

Post by mashmash » Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:21 am

chico_red you're worse than sketchydub...
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Re: Why can't dubstep be clean?

Post by fretn » Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:28 am

mashmash wrote:chico_red you're worse than sketchydub...
:z:
chazer wrote:most of visitors were shocked by horrible Zombys mixing skills (he didn't even try)
they called him "iPod in mask"
:lol:

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Re: Why can't dubstep be clean?

Post by chico_red » Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:31 am

mashmash wrote:chico_red you're worse than sketchydub...
nooooooooooo!!!!

Difference is that I don't have any issues about one style being superior to another, and it is a pet hate of mine when others think this way. I see this nonsense has been going on in this forum for a long time and am sure I'll get bored soon enough!

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Re: Why can't dubstep be clean?

Post by chico_red » Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:32 am

fretn wrote:
mashmash wrote:chico_red you're worse than sketchydub...
:z:
oh that's a meaningful contribution... congratulations for that one!

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Re: Why can't dubstep be clean?

Post by mashmash » Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:37 am

chico_red wrote:
mashmash wrote:chico_red you're worse than sketchydub...
nooooooooooo!!!!

Difference is that I don't have any issues about one style being superior to another, and it is a pet hate of mine when others think this way. I see this nonsense has been going on in this forum for a long time and am sure I'll get bored soon enough!
i meant because you always seem to be having an argument with someone in every post.

i get what you mean but it's understandable why people hate on lots of the stuff coming out now. i suppose people think a forum is a good place to write endless shit about why they hate such and such, you have to ignore it :wink:
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Re: Why can't dubstep be clean?

Post by sigbowls » Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:41 am

retarded thread :e:
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Re: Why can't dubstep be clean?

Post by chico_red » Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:42 am

mashmash wrote:
chico_red wrote:
mashmash wrote:chico_red you're worse than sketchydub...
nooooooooooo!!!!

Difference is that I don't have any issues about one style being superior to another, and it is a pet hate of mine when others think this way. I see this nonsense has been going on in this forum for a long time and am sure I'll get bored soon enough!
i meant because you always seem to be having an argument with someone in every post.

i get what you mean but it's understandable why people hate on lots of the stuff coming out now. i suppose people think a forum is a good place to write endless shit about why they hate such and such, you have to ignore it :wink:
Hating is one thing, but saying that someone is a moron because they like thin & crispy pizza as opposed to deep pan... is just insane! :u:
But you are right.. I will do my best to ignore it! :)

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Re: Why can't dubstep be clean?

Post by BlaQ » Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:55 am

People seem have such a problem with what others want to listen to and what they find good. Calling some of the filthy dubstep tunes 'commercial' would be pretty stupid. Their not commercial, just less of a refined sound maybe i dont know. Its odd though the whole commercial and underground thing. :?

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Re: Why can't dubstep be clean?

Post by pkay » Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:03 am

BlaQ wrote:People seem have such a problem with what others want to listen to
In the US we call it 'Bitch-Assness'

horrible disease, no cure....

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Re: Why can't dubstep be clean?

Post by damu » Mon Aug 09, 2010 2:09 am

^^^
this just the kind of stupid argument thread i expected when i saw people were discussing the merits of describing dubstep as being dirty.

the idea od it being dirty comes from the fact that most of the stuff you're talking about uses a lot of sub bass and importantly a lot of distortion. which has lead to the sound being described as dirty.

the people who have taken this idea too far have been correctly identified as morons. producers such as benga, skream and plastician are not morons, we know this. the reason they play wobblers is that they are well known and somewhat commercial, and are therefore expected to play at least a little bit of 'dirt'. this is because it is, sadly, the side of dubstep which is most well known among 'the masses'. i'm sure even they get very bored of it after a while, and we all know they're capable of a lot more.

i hope that clears up your little argument. stop calling names on the internet, its retarded.

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