I'm not jamaican and neither are you..

echo wanderer · Post by **echo wanderer** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:27 pm

hera wrote:
Echo Wanderer wrote:If I have to get used to asain kids running around saying "n*gga",then I think patois/pseudo-patois is a much easier thing to swallow.

i also think it makes me sound cool.

You don't need patois for that sweety.

echo wanderer · Post by **echo wanderer** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:28 pm

Delendi wrote:innart... we're exploring new cultures, activities, musics etc all the time and sometimes there are occasions where there really isn't a word in our traditional english (or wherever you're from) dialect which describes what we see/feel/hear. you'd have to use LOTS of words instead of just one patois or whatever else word. some tunes are just a lot more 'shower' than 'really rather pleasant on the ear'

Did you just say "INNART"???

I knew MC BUFFALO was really you for some strange reason...

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echo wanderer · Post by **echo wanderer** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:37 pm

elgato wrote:
Shonky wrote:
jim wrote:Ska is jamaican and preceded reggae!
Think there was also bluebeat and rock steady before reggae.
apparently rock steady came after ska, as the result of a particularly hot summer in Jamaica, thus the bands slowed the tempo for the dances and rock steady developed! jokes...

dont know about bluebeat tho? whats that?

Ska came first,which was essentially the Jamaican version of American Soul/RnB.Then came Rock Steady,then Rockers,next Crackers,then Reggae.The earliest roots of Dub was concieved within all of this.

Coincidentally,the term "skinhead" is also Jamaican.English working class youth only adopted it after the great West Indian migration to the UK in the late '50s/early '60s,mainly in the ports where West Indians could easily get work.

fubar · Post by **fubar** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:39 pm

Shonky wrote: I do think English folk saying "What-e-vuh" should be shot in the face with a cannon. Actually I think anyone should saying "what-e-vuh"

bwhahaha if you say that outload how its spelt it makes you sound south african

echo wanderer · Post by **echo wanderer** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:50 pm

obIwan wrote:ska is the sharper sound of Ska's choppy down strokes

Upstroke actually.In a 4/4 beat,it is strummed up and muted down in the halfstep:1~and~2~and~3~and~4~ [~=mute;and=upstroke]

Used to play in a few ska bands back in the day.

J Dub U wrote: I beleive ska is actually englands (white) version of the reggae sound

Um...you're thinking Lover's Rock.Which is just awesome.

delendi · Post by **delendi** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:24 pm

i didn't wanna big up lovers in case i got cussed... but second that, it's boomrah

obiwan · Post by **obiwan** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 9:53 pm

Gregory Isaacs is lovers rock though, and he aint from England is he? I don't really dig it too much, its like mums music innit! Okay Wiki'd it and it started in South London, so IS more English than Ska

delendi · Post by **delendi** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:40 pm

hmmm... i've never called gregory isaacs lovers rock

paolo · Post by **paolo** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:11 pm

Delendi wrote:hmmm... i've never called gregory isaacs lovers rock

isn't he just good old-fashioned plain reggae? Or am I just showing how little I know about the subject?

delendi · Post by **delendi** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:13 pm

mmm always just been 'reggae' in my mind.

delendi · Post by **delendi** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:13 pm

what would you call ken boothe obi?

j dub u · Post by **j dub u** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:26 pm

1000 volts of holt is one my favourite albums of all time if anyone knows about john holt

paolo · Post by **paolo** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:27 pm

J Dub U wrote:1000 volts of holt is one my favourite albums of all time if anyone knows about john holt

the man's a legend! 'police in helicopter' is my fave of his tunes

subframe · Post by **subframe** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:50 pm

paolo wrote:
J Dub U wrote:1000 volts of holt is one my favourite albums of all time if anyone knows about john holt
the man's a legend! 'police in helicopter' is my fave of his tunes

People are always shocked when I tell them John Holt wrote The Tide is High. John holt is great.

ekstrak · Post by **ekstrak** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:04 am

John Holt - Ali Baba .. *legendary* track

echo wanderer · Post by **echo wanderer** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 6:19 am

Delendi wrote:i didn't wanna big up lovers in case i got cussed... but second that, it's boomrah

I could just kiss you!

obIwan wrote:Gregory Isaacs is lovers rock though, and he aint from England is he? I don't really dig it too much, its like mums music innit! Okay Wiki'd it and it started in South London, so IS more English than Ska

I'd say he kinda does both.Look at the differences between 'John Public' and the classic 'Night Nurse'.The man is a legend in that way.Horace Andy has always had love songs too.And let's not forget good ol' Desmond Dekker,who did it ska,rock steady,and reggae.I'd almost have to say that those three were the biggest influences on Lovers Rock.

All Lover's rock is really is the UK's answer to Reggae.There have always been love themes in Reggae,which unfortunately has a common stereotype that it's only about suffering and politics.Rock'n'Roll is pretty much an American concept,but The Beatles,The Stones,and Led Zeppelin are considered Rock.Is it not Rock because it's not American?I think not.The exchange of ideas is a universal art,which can yield wonderful results.Lovers Rock is just one of them.And so is Dubstep.

delendi · Post by **delendi** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:46 am

subframe wrote:
paolo wrote:
J Dub U wrote:1000 volts of holt is one my favourite albums of all time if anyone knows about john holt
the man's a legend! 'police in helicopter' is my fave of his tunes
People are always shocked when I tell them John Holt wrote The Tide is High. John holt is great.

argh THANK you. nooooobody fuckin believes me!

paolo · Post by **paolo** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:53 am

Delendi wrote:
subframe wrote:
paolo wrote:
J Dub U wrote:1000 volts of holt is one my favourite albums of all time if anyone knows about john holt
the man's a legend! 'police in helicopter' is my fave of his tunes
People are always shocked when I tell them John Holt wrote The Tide is High. John holt is great.
argh THANK you. nooooobody fuckin believes me!

I knew that as well! and I agree with the guy who said 'ali' baba' is a classic. so is 'help me make it through the night'. holt tight the john holt appreciation crew! (see what I did there?)

ufo over easy · Post by **ufo over easy** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:39 pm

ekstrak wrote:I'm not jamaican and neither are you...

... so why do your tunes have offbeat reggae style stabs?

masstronaut · Post by **masstronaut** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 5:48 pm

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vnoyqykrz_o

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