is 'Filth' ruining the scene?

[Hurtdeer]

I've heard far more "filth" that sounds just awful, like it was made in 5 minutes just by applying an lfo to some chainsaw sound, than I've heard heavier bassy dubstep. Most of what I heard is centered around making the bass sound crazy as fuck while completely ignoring musical structure. It's all built the same, drop, chainsaw bass, wobble, repeat. I tried to listen to excision and datsik do a back to back set but it was like 2 hours of the same sound.

every genre of music suffers from this, if you're hearing more bad filth than anything else maybe you need to question your listening habits or the nights you go to?

listen to some akira kiteshi or broken note or something

[Hurley]

I've been listening to DnB for 15 years, one of the reasons I came to the dubstep scene was because I was sick of all the stupid threads and discussions like THIS!! Don't ruin dubstep for me to.

lol

[djchaosphere]

its crazy how much time people that listen to wack ass sleep step spend bitching about the heavier side of things
god forbid someone enjoy a different sound than you
wankers

[skitz_0]

its crazy how much time people that listen to wack ass sleep step spend bitching about the heavier side of things
god forbid someone enjoy a different sound than you
wankers

[marshy]

Borgore is midrange so people listen to it on youtube, probably through default PC speakers. The people who listen to DMZ are playing it on vinyl.

That's actually a fucking well good point that i've never thought about. All the kids who just listen to dubstep on their computer speakers or headphones can't hear, so can't appreciate, the sub in all the deeper tracks. It makes sense then that they listen to what sounds better on their speakers, hence the mid range?

[WIFE]

Most of what I heard is centered around making the bass sound crazy as fuck while completely ignoring musical structure.

Where is the smilie of a hammer hitting a nail.

[G31]

lolz thread!!

"forum thread kills whole dubstep genre shocker"

and even more lolz at dnb being all clownstep these days, dnb has been taken over by the minimal crew headed by d-bridge tryin to make it sound like dubstep

[Input_1]

lolz thread!!

"forum thread kills whole dubstep genre shocker"

and even more lolz at dnb being all clownstep these days, dnb has been taken over by the minimal crew headed by d-bridge tryin to make it sound like dubstep

i'm relatively new to this forum, alot of people have made that point.
many apologies

[momodub]

LET PEOPLE DANCE ! give a DAMN ABOUT GENRES ! give a DAMN ABOUT FILTH !

FREE YOUR MINDS AND FOCUS ON THE BASICS

[LA_Boxers]

LET PEOPLE DANCE ! give a DAMN ABOUT GENRES ! give a DAMN ABOUT FILTH !

FREE YOUR MINDS AND FOCUS ON THE BASICS

What he said......possibly.

[uncle bill]

Evolution is killing dubstep...every style of music has its day.

If you don’t like sets that are wall to wall agro (and I don’t), just keep supporting the DJs, producers and labels who keep it varied and push music forward.

The good news is that there’s just as much great music coming out on dubstep-affliliated labels (Hessle, Hyperdub, Tectonic, Swamp 81, Deep Medi etc) as there ever was. Most of it doesn’t sound like dubstep circa 2005, but that’s a good thing.

Never judge a scene by its lowest common denominator.

[uncle bill]

Oops...just noticed the question this time was whether something was “ruining the scene”, rather than “killing dubstep”.

"Filth" definitely isn’t ruining the scene as I see it, because that kind of music is a scene in its own right. I don’t hear much of it when I go out. I'm pleased to say that I’ve yet to hear Pinch or Mala playing 2 hours of bleedin’ chainsaws.

[joeki]

its crazy how much time people that listen to wack ass sleep step spend bitching about the heavier side of things
god forbid someone enjoy a different sound than you
wankers

filthy dubstep isn't heavy...that's exactly the only beef I have with that shitty style of dubstep. There is no heavyness, no sub bass, nothing filling up the void. It's boring.

And no it isn't ruining the scene, it's ruining my scene .

[Rahul]

its crazy how much time people that listen to wack ass sleep step spend bitching about the heavier side of things
god forbid someone enjoy a different sound than you
wankers

filthy dubstep isn't heavy...that's exactly the only beef I have with that shitty style of dubstep. There is no heavyness, no sub bass, nothing filling up the void. It's boring.

And no it isn't ruining the scene, it's ruining my scene .

Dubstep started off as a genre which had heavy sub bass in its music. All this 'filth' does not have that sub bass element so its not dubstep in my opinion

[pkay]

Dubstep started off as a genre which had heavy sub bass in its music. All this 'filth' does not have that sub bass element so its not dubstep in my opinion

Though sold in the same package, my Green crayola is labeled 'Green' because it is in fact not the same as my Blue crayola.

=/=


It may be created via combining Blue and Yellow, but my Green crayola, once again notated by 'Green' is in fact not a Blue crayola.



My blue crayon can rest easy. When i need to draw the sky, or water, or marge simpsons hair, there is no replacement.



However I cannot draw blue grass, or a blue oscar the grouch as that would be grover.



I hope you now understand the color green and can allow blue and green to live in peace.

[joeki]

hehe nice one.

The bottom line is, if people go out to enjoy a night 'labeled' as 'dubstep', and that mission is achieved, what beef can I possibly have?
If that night features music by the likes of borgore, Circus records etc. that's fine, if that night features the likes of DMZ, Peverelist and whatnot, equally good.

All I'm asking is for my square feet of skanking space. I'll be sure to pick the nights where I need it.

[Braapford]

Genrestep is my favourite genre

"Filth" by Skream was a huge track that didn't ruin the scene in my unwanted, ignored opinion....

[wolf89]

Borgore is midrange so people listen to it on youtube, probably through default PC speakers. The people who listen to DMZ are playing it on vinyl.

That's actually a fucking well good point that i've never thought about. All the kids who just listen to dubstep on their computer speakers or headphones can't hear, so can't appreciate, the sub in all the deeper tracks. It makes sense then that they listen to what sounds better on their speakers, hence the mid range?

I've thought that could be an explanation for why such bass-less or even poorly produced tracks can get popular for a while now. People can't hear stuff properly becuase of their shitty speakers. That something with loads of uncontrolled noisy mid range, no sub and dry boring drums sounds heavier than say one of Coki's super dark crushingly heavy bassy tracks with more life filled drum parts.

Some producers don't realise too that even when you're going way overboard you still have to be subtle. I mean there's a lot of little things to be picked out of 16 Bit's Panic and some interesting sounds. Loads of producers think to get this effect you just throw as many random wobble sounds together as possible with out any real thought of how it develops the track or how it fits in with the rhythms or melodies better while switching shit up a bit at the same time and then also assuming all sounds must sound completely dry and hard sounding and nothing more interesting than that.

By the way. I'm still not that good at producing. Don't view this as some rant that I'm better than everyone. It's just how I hear dubstep working when you're aiming for something a little more crazy or gritty sounding to my ear.

[chronicrecords]

its been said many times before. all you can really do is support the sound you like

[saladbar]

I agree with you 100%. Its hilarious when I see youtube comments about some DMZ tunes that say "wtf weak" or "this is so boring"