Moving from DNB to dubstep

rjv · Post by **rjv** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:15 pm

i already got an overdose of dubstep.

so recently i've been buying/producing/listening dnb again.

after a two year break or so.

seckle · Post by **seckle** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:58 pm

ThinKing wrote:
seckle wrote:being a member of a scene, and being a member of the scene's forums are two very very different things.
i'm not trying to say you need to be more than just someone who loves the music and downloads the mixes. i'm just saying that, after being a member of a few forums for a while now you can really see first hand the major differences.

one facinating aspect about net communities, is the assimilation factor. it's the notion that everyone who has a net connection and pc can be a part of a cultural movement. deep.....you could write a book about all the levels of it..
Totally, it's sometimes easy to forget that the internet 'scene' i.e. forums like this place only represent a tiny cross-section of the actual scene in its entirety.

exactly.

neil @ inp · Post by **neil @ inp** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 2:46 pm

Broken Silence wrote: Take inperspectives night at herbal for example, iv only been once but that goes down as one of the most highly charged, and more importently fresh sounding, dnb raves iv been to.

Glad you liked it mang!!

Well- we're here, and we're all loving it at Inperspective HQ. I see a lot of crossover at the mo, as well as a lot of producers with some form of jungle/dnb background and imo its really gathering pace.

All I know is I can't get enough of it, particularyl one tune (new thread time

)Seriously- so many great new and emerging producers (big ups to those I know/ canÂ’t wait to hear dem ones lurkin) nowÂ… definitely agree with Pete B when he said it reminds him of the old jungle days in vibe, ethos, creativity and eagernessÂ… I think if it manages to stay on a level then the futureÂ’s bright..

On the other hand thereÂ’s a lot of great DnB startin to come back again imo (at least if youÂ’re into the deep/breaks/whatever

styles), not least our lovely little label and the schedule we have for 06

If you havenÂ’t heard the Breakage (9th and/Drowning) and Senses (St Germaine) pieces forthcoming on Planet Mu.. (big up for them seeing the light of day finally), fanuÂ… loads agreat shit imho..

That means itÂ’s a fuckin great time for some awesome music for me.

Oh and weÂ’re aimin to get Amit down for Technicality by te end of the year

drewdrops · Post by **drewdrops** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 5:19 pm

its seems a natural progression from dnb to dubstep for myself personally, dnb has run its course and only a handful of producers hit my sweet spot in order to buy their records (noisia - the tide, chase n status - loves theme), but still those paths are worn, the beats and rhythms are so engrained into me that its difficult to find pleasure in them on a listening point of view. On hearing Kode 9 play at a Rephlex party i was confused, up stairs there was some mental lap top trickery, whilst downstairs seemed cool, like fresh air, so much space in the music (and dancefloor unfortunatley), it seemed like nothing was happening until i listened and realised it wasn't static at all but constantly mutating in subtle variations, so yep im hooked

rjv · Post by **rjv** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:10 pm

neurofunk or stfu.

vespa · Post by **vespa** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:34 pm

Subliminal wrote:ok, ive been trying not to comment on the whole dnb thing, but i feel like i have to now.
First off, I agree that 99% of dnb is lacking - but - i am confused somewhat when i see 99% of dnb -> dubstep "converts" saying that they basically have comlpetely given up on it. I've hated most dnb for years now, but still, i have a night and a record label and still feel dedicated to it. Part of my dedication has been to spotlight the creative, boundary pushing heads still in dnb. I dont know, i think its easy for a jaded dnb fan to hear dubstep and just say, "well, ok! screw dnb then!" - but - someone like me just can't totally give up my main passion for the past 7 years or so.
People like paradox, alpha omega, amit, equinox, spirit, breakage, etc. are still making good shit and i feel almost responsible to keep whats still good in that scene going. Personally, I love dubstep - I think its just great - probably has a lot more potential than dnb, but i just dont think you have to give one up for the other.
I admit though, its hard. You have to search sooo hard to find the good stuff from dnb, but almost all the dubstep coming out right now is top notch!

I don't know...I sort of agree with your idea of exposing the good things that a genre has to offer. However, there are some things you should be doing out of a sense of *responsibility*: music is not one of them, IMO.

ufo over easy · Post by **ufo over easy** » Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:50 pm

rjv wrote:neurofunk or stfu.

Lame genre name, lame music.

subliminal · Post by **subliminal** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 4:05 am

vespa wrote:
Subliminal wrote:ok, ive been trying not to comment on the whole dnb thing, but i feel like i have to now.
First off, I agree that 99% of dnb is lacking - but - i am confused somewhat when i see 99% of dnb -> dubstep "converts" saying that they basically have comlpetely given up on it. I've hated most dnb for years now, but still, i have a night and a record label and still feel dedicated to it. Part of my dedication has been to spotlight the creative, boundary pushing heads still in dnb. I dont know, i think its easy for a jaded dnb fan to hear dubstep and just say, "well, ok! screw dnb then!" - but - someone like me just can't totally give up my main passion for the past 7 years or so.
People like paradox, alpha omega, amit, equinox, spirit, breakage, etc. are still making good shit and i feel almost responsible to keep whats still good in that scene going. Personally, I love dubstep - I think its just great - probably has a lot more potential than dnb, but i just dont think you have to give one up for the other.
I admit though, its hard. You have to search sooo hard to find the good stuff from dnb, but almost all the dubstep coming out right now is top notch!
I don't know...I sort of agree with your idea of exposing the good things that a genre has to offer. However, there are some things you should be doing out of a sense of *responsibility*: music is not one of them, IMO.

ok - thats your opinion and thats fine - but it is an opinion - thanks for offering it.

what reasons should you want to push music for? Money? Fame?
not that that is exactly what you may be suggesting but all im saying is if theres music i care about i feel like i want to spread it to people. is that wrong?

3507321c · Post by **3507321c** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 5:39 am

Wow, this is some pretty negative wank shit I'm seeing.

I thought Dubstep/DNB heads were a bit more mature.

Same wank shit I always see from haters.

Didn't your Grammys ever tell ya "If ya gots nuffin' nice to say...STFU !".

showguns · Post by **showguns** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:27 am

3507321C wrote:Wow, this is some pretty negative wank shit I'm seeing.

I thought Dubstep/DNB heads were a bit more mature.

Same wank shit I always see from haters.

Didn't your Grammys ever tell ya "If ya gots nuffin' nice to say...STFU !".

rjv · Post by **rjv** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 10:39 am

UFO over easy wrote:
rjv wrote:neurofunk or stfu.
Lame genre name, lame music.

i disagree

all about the depth and soundscapes combined with energetic beats and basslines.

the same thing got me into dubstep. tunes by dj distance, toasty, search & destroy. lately i've been into elemental and luke envoy etc etc

not talking about the zillion russian tunes with lame 180 bpm overpercussivebeats that sound like freeform with a breakbeat.

kion · Post by **kion** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 10:51 am

rjv wrote:
UFO over easy wrote:
rjv wrote:neurofunk or stfu.
Lame genre name, lame music.
i disagree

all about the depth and soundscapes combined with energetic beats and basslines.

the same thing got me into dubstep. tunes by dj distance, toasty, search & destroy. lately i've been into elemental and luke envoy etc etc

er, in 1998 maybe. THIS IS 2006!!!

rjv · Post by **rjv** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 10:53 am

KION wrote: er, in 1998 maybe. THIS IS 2006!!!

it's been downhill ever since.

ed rush & optical --> dj hazard :-/

ces · Post by **ces** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 5:07 pm

i don't see the need to 'switch' from one genre (dnb) to dubstep. you'll just get sick of dubstep and move on to something else.

i too recently started listening to dubstep, but still love 'some' dnb. but i also love tech house, hip hop, etc. why limit yourself.

grime · Post by **grime** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 6:12 pm

nuff DOA inside

theres still good and bad music in all genres

dudeski · Post by **dudeski** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 6:25 pm

i don't see the need to 'switch' from one genre (dnb) to dubstep. you'll just get sick of dubstep and move on to something else.

i too recently started listening to dubstep, but still love 'some' dnb. but i also love tech house, hip hop, etc. why limit yourself.

well said...just try to find the best things in all genres, i feel quite sorry for the people who only listen to 1 genre of music

melody · Post by **melody** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 7:20 pm

j_j · Post by **j_j** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 7:28 pm

zzzzzzzzzz.

rjv · Post by **rjv** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 8:46 pm

what about hardcore punk?

subliminal · Post by **subliminal** » Sat Feb 18, 2006 9:17 pm

3507321C wrote:Wow, this is some pretty negative wank shit I'm seeing.

I thought Dubstep/DNB heads were a bit more mature.

Same wank shit I always see from haters.

Didn't your Grammys ever tell ya "If ya gots nuffin' nice to say...STFU !".

what are you referring to? the guy calling neurofunk lame? just curious

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