Outlook Festival Tickets 2011?

[domhunt]

When are they released?

[salford]

When are they released?

..hang on, we haven't even sorted out 2010 yet....but there may be a couple of hundred early bird tickets on sale in a couple of weeks, we're trying to find out if we can increase the capacity for next year's Festival first.

It looks like more than 4000 will want to go but will the police, the site and availabilty of accommodation stop us having more than 4000?

Anyway, how much would you be willing to pay for a ticket to have the best time of your life?

[apmje]

I don't think the capacity should be increased, queuing for DMZ was silly and while I am cool to queue for a bit, 2 hours is a hard stretch. Plus some of the arenas were totally rammed, more people will just make it harder to dance! If people want the tickets, they should get on it quick. Will be grabbing an early bird ticket though!!

[salford]

I don't think the capacity should be increased, queuing for DMZ was silly and while I am cool to queue for a bit, 2 hours is a hard stretch. Plus some of the arenas were totally rammed, more people will just make it harder to dance! If people want the tickets, they should get on it quick. Will be grabbing an early bird ticket though!!

The Fort has never had 4000 people at it before. Problems arose which we couldn't predict, next year we know what to expect. We've been told that there is another arena just outside the Fort which can hold 2000 people! So everything is possible.

If the capacity can't be raised above 4000 then due to supply and demand the ticket price will go up massively, so how much will you be willing to pay to have the best time of your life?

[apmje]

Yeah I gathered as much, I bet Puntizela didn't know what had hit it. Still a great festival, don't get me wrong.

I am willing for like £120? Don't push it to the price of these overpriced crap festivals here in Britian! But thats probably about how much I'd be willing to pay on face value. Still, I know some people who paid £180+ this year.

[barry]

I don't think the capacity should be increased, queuing for DMZ was silly and while I am cool to queue for a bit, 2 hours is a hard stretch. Plus some of the arenas were totally rammed, more people will just make it harder to dance! If people want the tickets, they should get on it quick. Will be grabbing an early bird ticket though!!

The Fort has never had 4000 people at it before. Problems arose which we couldn't predict, next year we know what to expect. We've been told that there is another arena just outside the Fort which can hold 2000 people! So everything is possible.

If the capacity can't be raised above 4000 then due to supply and demand the ticket price will go up massively, so how much will you be willing to pay to have the best time of your life?

how will increased demand for tickets cause your running costs as a festival to go up?

Also i 2nd apmje for me personally i think increasing the capacity may change the vibe and increase queuing but i'm not an organiser/promoter so don't really know what im talking about

Outlook was the best weekend of life massive respect and keep doing what your doing words cannot describe my love for all of you and the festival

sorry to derail your thread..........................(maybe start an outlook 2010 feeback thread?)

[salford]

how will increased demand for tickets cause your running costs as a festival to go up?

Also i 2nd apmje for me personally i think increasing the capacity may change the vibe and increase queuing but i'm not an organiser/promoter so don't really know what im talking about

Outlook was the best weekend of life massive respect and keep doing what your doing words cannot describe my love for all of you and the festival:D:w:

The point I was trying to make was:
If the capacity remains at 4000 for next year and 8000 people want to go and are willing to pay the ticket price, of say £100 then 4000 people won't be able to buy tickets and will be disappointed. If the ticket price is increased to, say £150 then maybe only 6000 will want to buy tickets, so only 2000 are disappointed. We want to increase the capacity but its not all in our hands.

Costs will also go up next year as we try to solve this years problems, for example the dust, spraying water did not work this year, it just dried out again 30 minutes later, so we may have to cover the site in some sort of matting, the road up to the fort could be made better or at least have more lights on it. Just about everything we have to do to overcome the problems will cost more money.

We are also aware that the danger of increasing the capacity can make the Festival less "intimate" and being an intimate Festival is one of the attractions of the Outlook Festival. This is important to us, don't forget, Simon Scott and I have been promoting music for 16 years, even before we started SubDub and Exodus and have been going to gigs, clubs and Festivals since the early 1980's, we know what must be done to maintain the musical integrity and friendly vibes of this Festival!

[hedmuk]

I am willing for like £120? Don't push it to the price of these overpriced crap festivals here in Britian! But thats probably about how much I'd be willing to pay on face value. Still, I know some people who paid £180+ this year.

Absolutely not paying this much.Dont get me wrong, sik festival, had an amazing time, but there's certain sunk costs, i.e travel, that make it just as if not more expensive then many festivals as it is. increased demand with limited supply of ticks obvs mean an increase in ticket prices so Increasing the capacity, if there was more arenas and cheaper or same priced tickets, would be fine. Perhaps putting two popular acts on at the same time, in different locations, would alleviate the queing problem with DMZ and other popular nights at the festival.

[apmje]

I paid less this year for both my travel and ticket to Outlook than one Leeds Festival ticket costs. And I'd happily pay for accommodation and smash it on a beach than in a field near Leeds, fucking depressing. I obviously don't want the prices to rise but if I had to pay more to keep festivals vibes and integrity (which I know the Outlook team won't ever compromise) then so be it.

I do agree about putting two acts else where instead of all in the same place, adds more chance of seeing who you want.

[chico_red]

We want to increase the capacity but its not all in our hands.

I have lived in eastern europe for 5 years and can assure you that it IS in your hands!! Everything is possible there if you line the correct pockets!!!
But better only use this as a last resort, otherwise you get a reputation for working that way and so others take advantage.

[wooda916]

please please please please dont increase capacity! the ques this year were a joke and it will only be worse if more people go

opening another arena might seem a good idea but nights like DMZ will always draw in more than the capacity of that arena so having more people there will just mean longer ques and more people disapointed.

the ticket price should not exceed £120 in my opinion. Its already an expensive weekend with all costs considered. i had to work my arse off to go this year.

[phytone]

I'm with the others on here- I really wouldn't expand capacity if you can avoid it- I think there was just the right number of people there this year to keep it intimate. A lot of good festivals have been ruined by increased numbers...

I would be willing to pay up to £140 providing capacity doesn't increase!

[kee_uk]

I wouldn't mind a slight increase in ticket price considering the demand for this year.

An important consideration is that a capacity expansion could be dangerous most importantly due to the access / exit to some of the arenas only being through one point. Worst thing ever would be to have incidents caused by overcrowding. Thought it was good that there were people controlling access to the two main arenas but increased capacity would definitely require more stringent and expertly controlled access to arenas and therefore possibly more que'ing. Everyone saw what happened at Love Parade 2010 due to poor planning regarding the access and exit routes.

[dopocc]

Will definitely buy an early bird ticket. Couldn't make it this year but will be there in 2011

[ORIENTIS RECORDS]

Outlook festival was one of the best weekends of my life, packed with such good vibes and immense music. I was still so hyped for days for days after it had finished. I agree with the others if possible please don't increase the capacity as it might loose the vibe and feel about it. I am 100% going either way next year and would be willing to pay up to 140 for ticket as long as capacity remained reasonable, taking into consideration the cost of travel and accommodation. Big ups all the same guys!!

[chico_red]

or.... instead of increasing capacity, why not do one in May AND September?

[djstandfast]

please please please please dont increase capacity! the ques this year were a joke and it will only be worse if more people go

opening another arena might seem a good idea but nights like DMZ will always draw in more than the capacity of that arena so having more people there will just mean longer ques and more people disapointed.

the ticket price should not exceed £120 in my opinion. Its already an expensive weekend with all costs considered. i had to work my arse off to go this year.

totally agree...the ques for DMZ nights would just get worse, i was queuing about about an hour and half to get in, and alot of people wouldnt get in, so what about them people who are dissappointed? the boat parties another thing, went on the deep medi boat and it was 1 in 1 out to the top floor where the music was...it was the best festival ever, and i loved all of it but keep the capacity 4000!

[DonLuigi]

I can see both sides to this but..... having been to Outlook for the past 2 years i would say that any significant increase in capacity would be detrimental to the festival. An increased level of policing/stewarding really makes you feel like a sheep getting herded around which killed the vibes for me at certain points this year. The DMZ boat was a bit of a joke having to pay full price for a ticket and standing in a queue for over an hour. Also the actual boat itself wasn't anywhere near as good as the ones last year in Pag. It was a full on pirate ship in 2009 so people had more space to dance and didn't get sea-sick !!!

Having said that i think that the festival was a 100% success and any problems were obviously the result of unforseen circumstances. Glad to know it's gonna be in the Fort again in 2011 but i would seriously consider any big changes....

Even with this years 4000 capacity it felt overcrowded at times, also with there being so many different arenas it meant having to be organised and having to persuade people to choose between acts. I can fully appreciate that there is an issue of supply and demand but 1st come 1st served has always been the best way to differentiate between those who most want to be there. I would hate to see Outlook turn into a festival based on huge profits rather than huge vibes! That's what makes it so special - everyone is there for the same reason and it was all about the positive vibes (hippy talk over!)

I would say a compromise is best so my shout would be to increase capacity to say 5000 and prices to no more than £135. If there were more boats (big pirate ship muther-fuckers!) you could increase takings this way..... maybe have VIP tickets for like £175 that include some special bonuses (eg queue jumps or backstage entry etc)

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE KEEP THE VIBES AND DON'T SELL YOU'RE SOUL TO THE DEVIL ! *** (I HAVE FAITH N YOU) ***

[spaniard]

how will increased demand for tickets cause your running costs as a festival to go up?

Also i 2nd apmje for me personally i think increasing the capacity may change the vibe and increase queuing but i'm not an organiser/promoter so don't really know what im talking about

Outlook was the best weekend of life massive respect and keep doing what your doing words cannot describe my love for all of you and the festival:D:w:

The point I was trying to make was:
If the capacity remains at 4000 for next year and 8000 people want to go and are willing to pay the ticket price, of say £100 then 4000 people won't be able to buy tickets and will be disappointed. If the ticket price is increased to, say £150 then maybe only 6000 will want to buy tickets, so only 2000 are disappointed. We want to increase the capacity but its not all in our hands.

Costs will also go up next year as we try to solve this years problems, for example the dust, spraying water did not work this year, it just dried out again 30 minutes later, so we may have to cover the site in some sort of matting, the road up to the fort could be made better or at least have more lights on it. Just about everything we have to do to overcome the problems will cost more money.

We are also aware that the danger of increasing the capacity can make the Festival less "intimate" and being an intimate Festival is one of the attractions of the Outlook Festival. This is important to us, don't forget, Simon Scott and I have been promoting music for 16 years, even before we started SubDub and Exodus and have been going to gigs, clubs and Festivals since the early 1980's, we know what must be done to maintain the musical integrity and friendly vibes of this Festival!

Increasing the cost to make inprovements and stuff is fair enough but the whole increase the price to dissapoint less people is a joke if that was the case with every festival the prices would be off the scale. Even if the capacity is increased it wont affect the vibe just more like minded people getting to enjoy the fun. You wont get as many dickheads paying £200+ for all expenses so the vibe will stay the same.

[dutty_switch]

My feelings echo whats been said above, I'd happily pay more for a ticket (£100 or there about's) and have the money go on improving the festival & its logistics but I wouldn't want to see the capacity increased too much. I felt that, although I had to queue for DMZ for about an hour (I imagine a lot of people waited a lot longer than I did), the vibe of that room was perfect. Maybe if you moved the big main stage with the larger acts to this new arena and then maybe putting the larger-drawing DJ acts on in Arena 1 (although not on a raised stage) might work but anything bigger than that and I feel that the intimacy would be lost.

Anyway, thats my 2-pence worth.

Big ups for a sick festival, anyway. Can't wait for next year.