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Re: Record deal contract

Post by deadly_habit » Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:44 pm

webstarr wrote:
deadly habit wrote:heads on agreement are non binding until the full contract is signed so really what's the point in lieu of sending a clearly laid out contract?
yes they are
What Does Heads of Agreement Mean?
A non-binding document outlining the main issues relevant to a tentative partnership agreement.

It is the draft used by lawyers when drawing up the contract. It serves as a guideline for both parties before any documents are legalized.

also came across this

Regularly business owners and managers are asked to sign a Heads of Agreement document when leasing business premises or purchasing and/or selling their businesses or real estate property.

It is a common misconception that a Heads of Agreement is an informal and non-binding document which merely outlines the ‘tentative agreement’ between the parties.

Generally, Heads of Agreement documents fall into four distinct types which are detailed below (usually this is subsequently formalized by preparation on a contract soon after the Heads of Agreement has been signed):



1 - Binding Heads of Agreement contain all the terms of the agreement between the parties. The parties intend to be immediately bound by these terms of the agreement.

2 - Binding Heads of Agreement contain all the terms of the agreement but include a condition precedent that performance of certain terms is conditional upon execution of a formal document. For example, that finance can be obtained or you can purchase an adjoining block of land providing you with enough space to build your business premises.

3 - Non-binding Heads of Agreement is subject to execution of formal documents and all terms are not fully disclosed. These agreements contain a right to withdraw from any obligations until a formal document is executed. Often the document will be prefaced with the words ‘Subject to Contract’.

4 - Binding Heads of Agreement that contain all the terms of the agreement but the parties intend to enter into a further agreement to substitute the initial agreement.



Before you sign any Heads of Agreement documentation, or as they are sometimes called ‘Letters of Intent’, you should seek suitably qualified legal advice and clearly discuss with your legal council, the level to which you wish to be bound by the Heads of Agreement.

At Financial Dynamics we assist many of our clients by being able to identify when they should seek legal advice and the key matters they need to address with their legal council to protect their assets and their business.

just curious as why send out a heads of intent rather than the full contract

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Re: Record deal contract

Post by webstarr » Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:48 pm

deadly habit wrote:
webstarr wrote:
deadly habit wrote:heads on agreement are non binding until the full contract is signed so really what's the point in lieu of sending a clearly laid out contract?
yes they are
What Does Heads of Agreement Mean?
A non-binding document outlining the main issues relevant to a tentative partnership agreement.

It is the draft used by lawyers when drawing up the contract. It serves as a guideline for both parties before any documents are legalized.
Fair, I was thinking it was the same as a letter of intent. They have stated in it that it is binding though so not sure how that would falls

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Re: Record deal contract

Post by deadly_habit » Mon Sep 20, 2010 10:52 pm

yea curiosity on my parts seeing as i've only really dealt with only a couple labels/companies with actual contracts and not some copy paste job from a website. always curious about the legalities and this side of things seeing as guess what the majority of those people with pseudo contracts i've never seen a dime or accurate/consistent accounting from, just hoping someone else doesn't have to learn from my mistakes

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Re: Record deal contract

Post by webstarr » Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:16 pm

deadly habit wrote:yea curiosity on my parts seeing as i've only really dealt with only a couple labels/companies with actual contracts and not some copy paste job from a website. always curious about the legalities and this side of things seeing as guess what the majority of those people with pseudo contracts i've never seen a dime or accurate/consistent accounting from, just hoping someone else doesn't have to learn from my mistakes
Because they don't have a full contract will be the answer in most cases, the other reason is to speed up the process rather than waiting for full contracts to be drawn up, signed and returned.

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Re: Record deal contract

Post by deadly_habit » Mon Sep 20, 2010 11:26 pm

webstarr wrote:
deadly habit wrote:yea curiosity on my parts seeing as i've only really dealt with only a couple labels/companies with actual contracts and not some copy paste job from a website. always curious about the legalities and this side of things seeing as guess what the majority of those people with pseudo contracts i've never seen a dime or accurate/consistent accounting from, just hoping someone else doesn't have to learn from my mistakes
Because they don't have a full contract will be the answer in most cases, the other reason is to speed up the process rather than waiting for full contracts to be drawn up, signed and returned.
yea, but here's my thinking to it, most release contracts (assuming they have one, like you said) can be a template where the artist name, artist's real name, and track titles need to be plugged in, so where is the need for a heads of agreement in that case? in both cases a heads of agreement or a full fledged contract, both parties need to signed and returned.
i can see where it can be useful for say a one off agreement with different terms than the norm, but something that's a standard fare what's the need?
trying to get my learn on :wink:

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Re: Record deal contract

Post by broxamson » Tue Sep 21, 2010 5:33 pm

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Re: Record deal contract

Post by staticcast » Tue Sep 21, 2010 6:57 pm

deadly habit wrote:
webstarr wrote:
deadly habit wrote:yea curiosity on my parts seeing as i've only really dealt with only a couple labels/companies with actual contracts and not some copy paste job from a website. always curious about the legalities and this side of things seeing as guess what the majority of those people with pseudo contracts i've never seen a dime or accurate/consistent accounting from, just hoping someone else doesn't have to learn from my mistakes
Because they don't have a full contract will be the answer in most cases, the other reason is to speed up the process rather than waiting for full contracts to be drawn up, signed and returned.
yea, but here's my thinking to it, most release contracts (assuming they have one, like you said) can be a template where the artist name, artist's real name, and track titles need to be plugged in, so where is the need for a heads of agreement in that case? in both cases a heads of agreement or a full fledged contract, both parties need to signed and returned.
i can see where it can be useful for say a one off agreement with different terms than the norm, but something that's a standard fare what's the need?
trying to get my learn on :wink:
Probably just because a HOA is an easier read than a full-on contract? It's a quicker way to make sure the label and artist are on roughly the same page before getting much more specific in the contract itself. Also draws up the most important terms of agreement and allows both parties to move ahead (eg on promo, marketing etc) while waiting for the actual contract to be drafted, because that could take somewhat longer.
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Re: Record deal contract

Post by deadly_habit » Tue Sep 21, 2010 7:05 pm

fair play, just with the amount of ambiguous terms used in at least this particular one, it's easy to see where confusion can come into play and why people (me included, then again like i said i've been burned) have the interpretations they do

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Re: Record deal contract

Post by danoldboy » Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:26 am

Be cautious for sure but remember not everyone is out to screw you over.

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Re: Record deal contract

Post by futures_untold » Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:47 pm

This thread is extremely informative! :)

Does anyone have any other tips and advice on signing contracts with labels? What is the standard procedure for this?

What are some of the things that differentiate a good label from a bad one?

Does anyone have any stories or experience they care to share about signing to labels? How does this compare to those of you who have also just done it alone before or after being signed on a label? Is it even worth signing to a label today with the interbizzle doing away with the need for a labels 'connections'?

Are labels even still relevant considering remaining in one pidgeonhole is boring and the powers of the internet are endles when searching for new music?

Patrick :)

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