90 bpm Dubstep ?

ascuryc · Post by **ascuryc** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:53 am

Hi,

I heard this several times in night before the dj play dubstep or breaks.

Who produce this kind of "slow dubstep with hiphop beats" ? Could anybody give me some ref plz ?

MikeE · Post by **MikeE** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:00 am

I'm guessing you are either talking glitch hop or the rustie/hudmo sound?

FackOff · Post by **FackOff** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:10 am

MikeE wrote:I'm guessing you are either talking glitch hop or the rustie/hudmo sound?

or maybe like loefah style half-step:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjAbWKt6q4w

Hibbie · Post by **Hibbie** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:31 am

Maybe this?

http://www.dubstepforum.com/non-140-mal ... 16547.html

ascuryc · Post by **ascuryc** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:04 am

It's not really like glitch hiphop, it's sounds more like breakbeat with hard basses and hiphop beats.

I remember VENT played some of this during 15 min when I saw him

Forensics · Post by **Forensics** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:24 am

I've done some 90bpm stuff under my A Bridge Far Away alias. A few examples....

http://www.last.fm/music/A+BRIDGE+FAR+A ... 36+Million
http://www.last.fm/music/A+BRIDGE+FAR+A ... selessness
http://www.last.fm/music/A+BRIDGE+FAR+A ... ce/New+Era
http://www.last.fm/music/A+BRIDGE+FAR+A ... till+Water

None of them are glitch hop, as far as I know, but anyway!

http://www.myspace.com/abridgefaraway

ascuryc · Post by **ascuryc** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:38 am

Thx !

I was talking about that kind of sound : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hCg9S2EpOM

But it seems only VENT is producing that... Or Tipper http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48gyIDIrqXM !

test_recordings · Post by **test_recordings** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 1:27 pm

Funky breaks, me thinks. It's what jungle came out of in part but it's probably changed it's sound a bit since then. Check this out

pompende · Post by **pompende** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 4:47 pm

gotta say i love the number of producers who decide to include some wobbles in their house or hip hop or whatever and then they call themselves "wobble house" or "wobble lordz" or whatever the fuck, and then, in the end they just chuck some aggy dnb-esque midrange on their shite.

anyway...what youve linked shares a lot more in common, sonically, with breakbeat than it does dubstep... hope that helps.

test_recordings · Post by **test_recordings** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 6:00 pm

pompende wrote:anyway...what youve linked shares a lot more in common, sonically, with breakbeat than it does dubstep... hope that helps.

My mate described this as a mix of breaks, dub and dubstep:

It's just a particular element that's being overgeneralised from (the bass in this case)

pompende · Post by **pompende** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 6:38 pm

test recordings wrote:
pompende wrote:anyway...what youve linked shares a lot more in common, sonically, with breakbeat than it does dubstep... hope that helps.
My mate described this as a mix of breaks, dub and dubstep:

It's just a particular element that's being overgeneralised from (the bass in this case)

yeah great example. thats a sick song but there isn't really that much separating it from late 90s ragga jungle/dnb/breaks... I mean thats a fucking hoover sample right?

philly · Post by **philly** » Sat Sep 25, 2010 10:33 pm

Def check this one out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXqVfOZB6KM

test_recordings · Post by **test_recordings** » Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:03 pm

pompende wrote:
test recordings wrote:
pompende wrote:anyway...what youve linked shares a lot more in common, sonically, with breakbeat than it does dubstep... hope that helps.
My mate described this as a mix of breaks, dub and dubstep:

It's just a particular element that's being overgeneralised from (the bass in this case)
yeah great example. thats a sick song but there isn't really that much separating it from late 90s ragga jungle/dnb/breaks... I mean thats a fucking hoover sample right?

Well it's laid-back but funky jungle at 140bpm so breaks yeah, the bass isn't quite a hoover but it's most probably a pair of reeced saws with a bit of waveshaping. The only thing separating it from late 90s ragga jungle/dnb/breaks is that the production is more polished (not exactly better for it either, I might add). Still a good song though, just a shame about the repetitive drums!

executive steve · Post by **executive steve** » Sun Sep 26, 2010 6:06 pm

If it's 90 BPM then surely it's just sped up DnB?

test_recordings · Post by **test_recordings** » Sun Sep 26, 2010 8:54 pm

executive steve wrote:If it's 90 BPM then surely it's just sped up DnB?

I think you mean slower DnB which fits the groove template of hip-hop but is in a DnB styling but not half-speed hence funky breaks. Put on a hip-hop track and adjust the pitch/speed to +100% and you'll see what I mean.

Another quite amusing coincidence is that the drum patterns of heavy metal coincide with DnB (kick snare kick kick snare) and songs are also around 140bpm like dubstep so I think that is how there has been quite a large degree of success with cross-overs (E.g. Pendulum, Distance) and the resulting interest from previously uninterested 'foreign' fan bases. I still can't find a track called 'Heavy Metal Grime' that came out in 2006, damn that was heavy

wolf89 · Post by **wolf89** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 1:09 am

You might enjoy Mr Oizo's hip hop tempo stuff

Sharmaji · Post by **Sharmaji** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:23 am

Hem (geiom), ultragamma (XI), ill.Gates, mimosa, eskmo, mosca, Sub Swara (i'm a bit partial), some mala bits, some silkie bits, DJG, breakage, amit...

you're in a tempo where you can bridge the gap between hiphop, dubstep, autonomic and (dareIsay) drumstep. proper forward-thinking music.

slushpup · Post by **slushpup** » Mon Sep 27, 2010 3:52 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXeUpnTA22k

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