Sick of using FL would Reason be better or Ableton... hmmmm

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Re: Sick of using FL would Reason be better or Ableton... hmmmm

Post by kaiori breathe » Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:29 pm

Fruity Loops + Massive + SCREAMER!!!!! = dubstep

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Re: Sick of using FL would Reason be better or Ableton... hmmmm

Post by decappp » Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:31 pm

im so over using massive with FL haha ive been getting really into using rob pappens Blue

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Re: Sick of using FL would Reason be better or Ableton... hmmmm

Post by kaiori breathe » Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:37 pm

decappp wrote:im so over using massive with FL haha ive been getting really into using rob pappens Blue
sig tune sounds scarily like screamer...

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Re: Sick of using FL would Reason be better or Ableton... hmmmm

Post by Recessive Trait » Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:39 pm

decappp wrote:FL studio ive used it for years and i feel like ive learned everything about it and its way to easy but it takes too much work to master a good soun out of it
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Re: Sick of using FL would Reason be better or Ableton... hmmmm

Post by krispy » Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:44 pm

Best advice is to just pick something and stick with it or you aren't going to be getting any better. You will just be going around in circles always staying at the beginner stage.

Personally, I love Ableton and would recommend it to anyone
I am new to producing and found it easy to learn, there is a wealth of information available out there

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Re: Sick of using FL would Reason be better or Ableton... hmmmm

Post by reignstep » Mon Oct 04, 2010 2:46 pm

decappp wrote: but it seems like reason can produce a better sound???
I lol'd :D

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Re: Sick of using FL would Reason be better or Ableton... hmmmm

Post by deadly_habit » Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:21 pm

just clicked on one of your sig tunes with my headphones on...
moneyshot thread now!

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Re: Sick of using FL would Reason be better or Ableton... hmmmm

Post by zuta » Mon Oct 04, 2010 3:44 pm

decappp wrote: im so sick of using FL studio ive used it for years and i feel like ive learned everything about it
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Re: Sick of using FL would Reason be better or Ableton... hmmmm

Post by AJGR » Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:11 pm

try a demo of reason or ableton, if you like them more then buy them. theres nothing worse than hating the DAW your working with.

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Re: Sick of using FL would Reason be better or Ableton... hmmmm

Post by TEKN » Tue Oct 05, 2010 3:23 pm

I use Fruity,Ableton & Reason depending on what sort of track im writing/mood im in and i dont reckon there's much difference in "Sound quality" between them its all in the mixdown man just comes down to what DAW you feel most comfortable in

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Re: Sick of using FL would Reason be better or Ableton... hmmmm

Post by Jean-Luc Cougar » Tue Oct 05, 2010 4:47 pm

I doubt you learning "Mastering" is the answer. I would venture to guess that most "pros" have someone else master their records.

It seems like you need to look into sound design, mixing, and arranging.

I do agree, if you hate the workflow of Fruity, change it, but if you don't like the sounds you are getting, the problem is you and not the DAW.

Check out the Moneyshot / Gainstructuring thread (do a search for it) hands down the most useful thread I have read in regards to mixing.

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Re: Sick of using FL would Reason be better or Ableton... hmmmm

Post by jsills » Tue Oct 05, 2010 8:51 pm

from the sound of it youre sequencing tunes to a good standard but your mixes are lacking sound quality. am i close here? next step is properly mixing your tunes: using volume, compression, eq, reverb, delay etc to give sounds their own space, cleaning up phasing and clashing frequencies, adding a sense of movement or depth. then comes mastering, which is a whole other animal on its own. ( i leave it to professionals)

reason rewired with FL would open a lot of creative possibilities for you. i use ableton and would only suggest it because the workflow is soooo drastically different from FL.

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Re: Sick of using FL would Reason be better or Ableton... hmmmm

Post by FrostByte » Tue Oct 05, 2010 9:57 pm

decappp wrote:im so over using massive with FL haha ive been getting really into using rob pappens Blue
What's wrong with Massive and FL? I've yet to encounter a problem.

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Re: Sick of using FL would Reason be better or Ableton... hmmmm

Post by The Reaching Hand » Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:48 pm

It's not about what software you use it's about how you use it. I mean hell, the early grime dudes were making beats on MTV Music Generator on PS2! I can't really speak for FL Studio but I know a dude who's been making hip-hop beats with it for a few years now, seems cool, and there's plenty of big name producers that still use it. But if you're looking for a recommendation, I've been using mostly Reason to make my tracks and I really like how the GUI resembles actual hardware. It really helps you understand physical synths and patching and modulation because it's presented in such a literal way. Plus you can rewire it into a bunch of other DAWs and still utilize all of the crazy synths.

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Re: Sick of using FL would Reason be better or Ableton... hmmmm

Post by tripwire22 » Tue Oct 05, 2010 10:51 pm

j-one wrote:Changing DAW isn't going to get you that "full sound", your mixdown will... and mastering if necessary. Obv if you're not into the workflow then go for it, but FL is fully capable of giving you a "pro sound" (plenty of big names prove this).

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