grant morrison - disinfo con lecture - magick

[parson]

also it's been proven again and again that happiness improves genetic expression.

happiness improves health from the dna up.

cynicism destroys health in the same way.

bruce lipton breaks it down for the science minded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOpZG3PJqeg

happiness and cynicism do not oppose eachother imo

optimism vs cynicism is a better way of putting it. that's how RAW put it anyway.
the bottom line is that genetic expression (all of reality actually) is the product of emotional state.

[parson]

the way ben stewart (kymatica) puts it is that our only means of exercising free will in the world is the choice between fear and love.

[stephisaint]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-fba4OD ... re=related

This is a good documentary on quantum physics and mind control, if a little cheezy at times to get the idea across. It has physicists rather than just random occultists.
Videos 3 -6 are the most interesting.

[alien pimp]

also it's been proven again and again that happiness improves genetic expression.

happiness improves health from the dna up.

cynicism destroys health in the same way.

bruce lipton breaks it down for the science minded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOpZG3PJqeg

unjustified optimism when reality is worth pessimism means you're off the reality and a bus or something big and real is likely to hit your healthy optimistic body any moment now

if our happiness would make the/our world different, all idiots who live in a bubble decorated with lies would make this or their world better, but they don't and eventually they are the first to die of syphilis

it's nice to dream but it's healthy to be aware and, as in everything, the balance between these is what gives us health & happiness

[parson]

all of reality is the product of emotional vibration.

all of reality.

pessimism about reality is the product of the past. to haphazardly design the future based on cynical observation of the present, which is a product of the past is a neverending loop of suffering.

choosing optimism creates a preferable future.

[2manynoobs]

these threads always have the same pattern : "who has the biggest ego?"

[parson]

from jason louv:

Heaven (+3)
I love you, you love me, I am you, you are me. Grace and love are the only reality.
This is the Garden of Eden. Earth is a school from which all graduate into light
sooner or later. Everything is running perfectly and even apparent misery is part of
the divine plan (to balance karma / purify matter into spirit / teach lessons / etc etc).
Individuality is illusion and we are aware of this and hence liberated. We have free
will, but all paths lead to the Source. Love forever.


Hell (-3)
Everything suffers all the time period the end. Earth is a prison planet; a torture
device designed to produce the maximum yield of misery possible. The darkness is
occasionally and temporarily illuminated by the false hopes of love, religion, family,
success, all dangled in front of our eyes like the bioluminescent lure of a beast-toothed
angler fish. Human beings are a crop seeded by some other form of entity and our
agony is their food. "We teach all hearts to break." All of them. Individuality is illusion
but our only respite from it is to be devoured. We have free will in order to make our
suffering more poignant, and all paths lead to more suffering. All avenues of escape
are covered. We have one alternative, which is to have compassion and forgiveness for
everything in existence, in which case we win "the game"—but we still suffer.

Exit Strategy
In my current understanding [October 2006], taken from Sufism, the above two
conditions (both of which I have experienced as "absolute truth" at different points
in my life) are equally valid options. As long as we are physically incarnate, we are
liable to be ping-ponging between one or the other, or hovering in some gradient in
between, or in a different zone altogether. As long as we have a body, we can change
the frequency we are receiving and transmitting on. Once the body and mind die,
we’re stuck at whatever frequency we’ve cultivated up to that point and re-absorbed at that vibrational level, without change, outside of time and space. The Great Work
then becomes to cultivate the best state possible, in preparation for death. Heavy
psychedelic and spiritual experiences can give us a small taste of death so that we see
the importance of this. Choose wisely.

[parson]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-fba4OD ... re=related

This is a good documentary on quantum physics and mind control, if a little cheezy at times to get the idea across. It has physicists rather than just random occultists.
Videos 3 onwards are the most interesting.

what the bleep is alright, but it's way too abridged to be of much use imo. also i recently heard that emoto has been discredited due to his experiments not being replicable. there is a 3 disc version of this movie called Down The Rabbit Hole. it is has lots more discussion with the physicists and is far more interesting imo than the theatrical release. i reckon you know about The Secret and the law of attraction and all that. it's kabbalah for muggles. that stuff works. sigil magick is just a way of speeding up manifestation.

[alien pimp]

all of reality is the product of emotional vibration.

all of reality.

pessimism about reality is the product of the past. to haphazardly design the future based on cynical observation of the present, which is a product of the past is a neverending loop of suffering.

choosing optimism creates a preferable future.

what exalted hippies people who don't think through miss is that the reality is, maybe, the product of everyone's emotional vibration + probably some other shit. so our contribution counts, but only in exceptional situation prevails over the sum of all other contributions. so if you are AWARE of what others contribute, then you can anticipate the flux of energies and contribute our own in a way that gets us where we want. we don't actually make the winds, we just use them to sail. the rest are just farts

[parson]

reality is made up of everybody's vibrations, but your experience of it is only decided by you. your contribution is decided by you.

[alien pimp]

these threads always have the same pattern : "who has the biggest ego?"

when people who rarely know a normal debate of ideas meet one, they are likely to assimilate it to what they see every day

[alien pimp]

reality is made up of everybody's vibrations, but your experience of it is only decided by you. your contribution is decided by you.

my influence on the universe is decided by me
universe's influence on me is only observed and used by me

[abelard]

parson can pull quotes out of his arse all day but

it was written in a book = it must be true only works on sheep

i remember (i have endured a linear sense of time due to my abject mental failings) him saying he'd have taken over the world 7 (ahhhhhhhhhhhh 7!!!) (maybe not 7) times over had he he'd his own guidance from a nipper. shouldn't he be at least half way there on his own by now?

(deliberately not addressed in 2nd person- one does not look into the godhead for fear of anal/soul leakage)

yet it seems the only converts are 2 teenage dope heads, not the cool ones like me n BBJ but ones who get attacked by reptilians in their sleep (too long to comprehensively refute that particular nonsensical twiddle twoddle now)

thread made no sense before so I feel no guilt in adding further untruths and attempts to all yang up your yings

experience is shaped by your outlook. REALLLLLYYYY??????????

whats more, as this isn't said enough, allow alien pimp

preacher is right- debate is futile, just believe you idiot.

no smilies portray 1.5l wine in a bag.

[lloydnoise]

the way ben stewart (kymatica) puts it is that our only means of exercising free will in the world is the choice between fear and love.

[parson]

jesus used to say that if you try to crack a nut that's too green, it is not going open. but if you wait till it's ripe, it pops right open without any effort at all.

you're all nuts.

[alien pimp]

the way ben stewart (kymatica) puts it is that our only means of exercising free will in the world is the choice between fear and love.

pure truth! i just don't see ho this supports your views, you often provide quotes that speak against you but you think they mean the opposite...

[parson]

continued http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhEXPfFF ... re=related

[parson]

pimp you're not making any sense.

i've repeated the same thing over and over in this thread.

reality is the product of emotional vibration

stewart saying the only free will we have is choice of perception and therefore vibration fits in with that just fine.

[lloydnoise]

the way ben stewart (kymatica) puts it is that our only means of exercising free will in the world is the choice between fear and love.

pure truth! i just don't see ho this supports your views, you often provide quotes that speak against you but you think they mean the opposite...

i seriously doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion

[stephisaint]

all of reality is the product of emotional vibration.

all of reality.

pessimism about reality is the product of the past. to haphazardly design the future based on cynical observation of the present, which is a product of the past is a neverending loop of suffering.

choosing optimism creates a preferable future.

what exalted hippies people who don't think through miss is that the reality is, maybe, the product of everyone's emotional vibration + probably some other shit. so our contribution counts, but only in exceptional situation prevails over the sum of all other contributions. so if you are AWARE of what others contribute, then you can anticipate the flux of energies and contribute our own in a way that gets us where we want. we don't actually make the winds, we just use them to sail. the rest are just farts

I always figured that is what reality is. Mass mindset obviously affects the way the world works around you, just as focused leaders almost always attract followers to them. If you think of everyone's thoughts/intentions/emotions as one big directionless mess, it makes sense that an individual focused intention would attract other energies to lean towards the intended outcome. It's simply because everything else is so directionless that lends the power to certain individuals to slightly manipulate the world around them.

I don't consider myself occultist, but seems to make sense to me. You can see people being drawn to focused individuals every day... can't see why our energy would work any differently.

"Sigil magick" isn't really magic at all, it's just a way of focusing your thoughts and energy towards a certain outcome...