is it ok to make d&b @ 140bpm?

[Sirius]

so im working on this track at the moment & it has elements of dubstep... but then I when i started playing around with kick & snare... it went more towards a d&b style. It sounds massive & I think it would hit the mark at 165bpm..... but because I made all the sounds thru resampling midi... its a pain in the ass to go thru & snap all the files!!

D&b/dubstep fusion happens all the time.... it just feels weird because its such a beautiful & warm track like,
duno where all this music has been coming from lately!!
anyways...

!!chea

[Ongelegen]

there are no rules

[deadly_habit]

dnb and jungles origins started at around that tempo
i just wouldn't call it 140 dnb

always loved working in 160 range like this one so much more room to make shit breathe and give more funk to it


this 12" by klute has to be one of my faves in my collection
don't hear em like this as much anymore

[GRAYSKALE]

Maybe you could be the pioneer of a whole new sub genre

[paravrais]

there are no rules

This is true. Make what you wanna make. HOWEVER, for what it's worth if your making a standard time breakbeat at 140 with dark elements it's probably technically breakbeat or very slow jungle (like back in the old days), hard to say without hearing it. It won't be DnB OR dubstep but that doesn't mean you can't make it or play it alongside dubstep.

This is something people get angry about a lot and they don't get that by saying what their making isn't Dubstep isn't trying to have a go at them XD not everything has to be Dubstep to be good or to have a lot of elements from Dubstep in it.

[paravrais]

Maybe you could be the pioneer of a whole new sub genre

Quite a hefty amount of tunes in that style already I'm afraid....not to burst anyones bubble

On a similar note, lot of tunes like this on Skreams new album.

[deadly_habit]

also might be worth checking out some jtek stuff if you haven't already

[Sirius]

yea, its just weird as track... I just don't know what genre it would fall into... except my own (jahdism).
anyways Ill chuck up a clip of it & see if you can figure out what it is!

!!chea
Soundcloud

ill reply later... gota bounce!

[Ongelegen]

yea, its just weird as track... I just don't know what genre it would fall into... except my own (jahdism).

No need for labels

[synthless]

I know a few artists that just stay at the standard 120 for every track... It really doesnt make a difference. Just sounds foreign to me

[abZ]

In the past they have called the cross over "breakstep" it really doesn't matter what you call it, good or bad that's what I want to know. D1 is making some serious 138 bpm jungle. He just put out this mix... http://symbiosis.com.au/2010/10/06/symbiosis-61-d1/

[Echoi]

In the past they have called the cross over "breakstep" it really doesn't matter what you call it, good or bad that's what I want to know. D1 is making some serious 138 bpm jungle. He just put out this mix... http://symbiosis.com.au/2010/10/06/symbiosis-61-d1/

Good call, gonna grab that.

[Sirius]

see I understand the need to not label things...
but when you are at a loss for words when it comes to describe your own music, ya think of what is already there like. so could anyone but this track into a category for me?

!!chea

[paravrais]

see I understand the need to not label things...
but when you are at a loss for words when it comes to describe your own music, ya think of what is already there like. so could anyone but this track into a category for me?

!!chea

If it's "not to fast" on your soundcloud then then sounds like breakbeat to me mate. There's a lot of darker, dubstep-esque breakbeat about if you look for it. Mate of mine is real into it but I don't know it so well, will have to get some names of peeps off him next time we speak.

[Sirius]

ay thanks bro! yea I was chatting with another bro who reckons its on the breakstep tip.
I hadn't even heard of it before. Its guna get more breaky too. Just gota record some more samples.
gota lighter, finger click, clap, and a lil tap on stone in this. & then everything else is recorded off a buss.
wana keep it organic & shit... who knows where it will go.
will def look into breakstep though!

shit... everything has a step @ the end of it now ah, lolz

!!chea

[twentz]

it'll never work

[cloak and dagger]

it is fun! do it.


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[mks]

will def look into breakstep though!

shit... everything has a step @ the end of it now ah, lolz

!!chea

Actually man, the term breakstep is just as old as dubstep. Both were in common usage by at least 2001 and used to describe the darker, dubbier, harder 2-step we were playing. Breakstep of course referred to the more breakier end of the spectrum.

EZ

(oh yeah, and don't worry about what it is. If you are feeling it, then make it!! )

[Sirius]

will def look into breakstep though!

shit... everything has a step @ the end of it now ah, lolz

!!chea

Actually man, the term breakstep is just as old as dubstep. Both were in common usage by at least 2001 and used to describe the darker, dubbier, harder 2-step we were playing. Breakstep of course referred to the more breakier end of the spectrum.

EZ

(oh yeah, and don't worry about what it is. If you are feeling it, then make it!! )

!!chea brutha

[In The Shadows]

the lower limit of jungle/dnb is about 150 to 155bpm, any slower than that and you're making breaks/garage/hardcore/jtek etc depending on how it grooves and what flavours you have in there. I wouldn't even think too much about what it is tbh, just let it roll how it wants to roll and make it sound good. Id rather hear something on a jungle/dnb tip at 140bpm than 174 any day of the week thats for sure.