Deep Medi / Blow Your Head Off?

[Audio Doughnuts]

Distance has varied it pretty damn well. V seems to have just the right amout of melodic yet screw your face up bass!

Everyone seems to be swaying to the deeper stuff though!

P.s I'm glad there isn't 101 trolls on this thread slagging off various different styles of dubstep aha!

[deadly_habit]

Distance has varied it pretty damn well. V seems to have just the right amout of melodic yet screw your face up bass!

Everyone seems to be swaying to the deeper stuff though!

P.s I'm glad there isn't 101 trolls on this thread slagging off various different styles of dubstep aha!

give a lil it's only hit page 2
variety is the spice of life though
i'm always suspect of people who only listen to a small niche of a genre and slag the rest of it off
hell for me producing both sides goes hand in hand with what type of mood i'm in

[Audio Doughnuts]

variety is the spice of life though
i'm always suspect of people who only listen to a small niche of a genre and slag the rest of it off
hell for me producing both sides goes hand in hand with what type of mood i'm in[/quote]

agree'd bro, there needs to be more freshness in this scene indeed. you find a lot of the similar sounding stuff so if you vary it new stuff always pops up.

i guess its difference of opinion as i know a lot of people who hateeee the harder stuff.

what i was saying about the trolls in the forums is, looking at 90% of the threads on here, someone has to hate on SOMETHING, i'm suprised people aren't saying this is rubbish, he is shit etc etc.

[dutty_switch]

variety is the spice of life though
i'm always suspect of people who only listen to a small niche of a genre and slag the rest of it off
hell for me producing both sides goes hand in hand with what type of mood i'm in

agree'd bro, there needs to be more freshness in this scene indeed. you find a lot of the similar sounding stuff so if you vary it new stuff always pops up.

i guess its difference of opinion as i know a lot of people who hateeee the harder stuff.

what i was saying about the trolls in the forums is, looking at 90% of the threads on here, someone has to hate on SOMETHING, i'm suprised people aren't saying this is rubbish, he is shit etc etc.[/quote]

The thing about the harder tunes is there is more scope for them to sound absolutely shit if they're not done just right. Some producers just seem to go for the most aggressive, obnoxious sound possible with no real attention paid to the quality of the sounds of the structure of the tune at all. And all melody goes out the window (unless they just throw in a cheesy pop tune sample - seemingly just to be 'whacky' and ironic but coming across as just uninspired and lazy).

Coki, Distance, Kromestar, F-One, Chimpo, Reso, Akira Kiteshi & Jakes all prove you can make really well produced, sick sounding heavy club tunes without just making stupid noises and basically becoming a parody of yourself. Even some old Bar9 tunes are really well made and sound awesome like Baking Bread and their remix of Music Makers by Synkro.

[Phigure]

bingo ^


the fact is just that most of the "filth" stuff is simply bad music. period. the majority are just a continuation of some stupid "who can make a more annoying sound" contest. they lack any sort of real emotion or feeling, and they're done purely sound more annoying than the last tune.

Reso, for example, can make what one would call "filth", but does it well. He actually writes music, not just some generic kick snare pattern with a few annoying wobbles on top. Just listen to Otacon... the level of detail to everything is amazing... the drums in particular I think... the drop is fucking immense, yet the song still retains melody, feeling, and pace. And what makes a big difference to me as well is the fact that this isn't the only type of tune he can write; just take a listen to Hemisphere... what one could call almost the polar opposite...

[dj_ug]

What are you lot feeling? The deep medi, deeper more melodic side of dubstep....Or the more hardcore techy side of dubstep?

I definitely prefer the deeper, more techy side of things.

funny how in this discussion people seem to be taking the definition of 'techy' to identify both sides of the divide. as far as i'm concerned, though, the point at which techno and dubstep meet most perfectly is:



basically most of the stuff off hotflush, hessle, apple pips and such. for me that is altogether a different sound from the whole deep medi / dmz / swamp81 / tectonic thing, which is once again (obviously) an entirely different sound from the 'harder' leaning labels such as hench / chestplate / dub police. and then you have something like ranking records, which have a completely unique sound, which is hard to group with any other. either way, the point i'm trying to make is that the one thing that i've always loved about dubstep, and the thing that drew me most to it was basically its ever-fluid borders, that make it very difficult to even define into a single genre. the fact that when i am trying to play some dubstep to people who have never heard it before, i have a very wide palate of different sounds to choose from, and it all to be considered dubstep. and so while when i'm listening by myself i do most definitely prefer the deeper, 'techier' side of things, i do have a great deal of fun banging out some hardcore wobblers at parties. despite the fact that the majority of the stuff being released under the guise of 'filthstep' (warranting all sorts of 'sounds dirtier than....' comments on youtube), is exactly nothing other than music written in poor taste, there are still the distances/goth-trads/emalkays/the others' who know how to make quality wobblers.

the ironic thing about such an 'open-minded genre' of music, is just how many people can be so close-minded about other tastes.

[apmje]

the ironic thing about such an 'open-minded genre' of music, is just how many people can be so close-minded about other tastes.

[Staley]

Meditational bass weight for the most part. Mixed with some of those next level soaring synths and 808s. With a couple of Coki/Jakes esque bangers. And I'm a sucker for anything roots/dub sounding. Its all about Badmon DJs like Pinch who can take on a sonic journey through the deepest, most techno influenced rollers, to the those beats that hit you like a sledge hammer. Variety is key. And never be afraid to drop some jungle!!!

[decree]

why cant you like both, they are both great together in contrast and both great on their own for different reasons

[reptilian]

digital mystikz dj sets cover styles both perfectly

[madmeesh]

I prefer the stuff that takes the lessons of early dubstep, namely the power of clean sub bass weight matched with the space afforded by halftime rhythms, and infuses it with some kind of interesting melodic approach. Like, I think lots of Deep Medi stuff is incredibly boring, and the arrangement is very lazy. On the other side of the spectrum, most banger dubstep is basically an embarrassment, except from those core groups of UK dons that have been doing the aggy stuff for longer than a year.

I take Aerial as an example of how to do things right; 2562 forged a 'middle path' between strong, dubstep-quality sub weight, and full, melodic techno stabs, and even managed to make it feel dubby at times. It's both forward-thinking, and rooted in traditional forms.

[Audio Doughnuts]

why cant you like both, they are both great together in contrast and both great on their own for different reasons

your right man, i think there is probably a line which will be drawn at some point as to what kind of stuff we're talking about. some tearout stuff i've been sent is completely ridiculous. althought some of the tearout stuff is very very well produced.

i think people need to open there eyes a bit and just appriciate real GOOD music.

[decree]

i think people need to open there eyes a bit and just appriciate real GOOD music.

[rick_slater]

As long as its a good song you cant go wrong. this apllies to music in general... something well produced with thought behind it, whether you are making something deep or high frequency i think we can all spot a good song from a bad song ( i hope )