WORKS-IN-PROGRESS for OCTOBER, 2010

[jimbeaux]

@reignz- which track were you talking about? I'm a total noob at production so hearing feedback from someone whos tracks are the shit is awesome!

your money track is big man!! i really dig it, and the break beat touch is really nice.

I think it was your tune , the last one on page 40. it just sounded like a bunch of random stuff thrown together to me, structure is a big part of dubstep and all electronic music really, try to buildup to 32 , drop it at the start of you 33rd bar and then work in bars of 4 or 8 to make stuff not sound so random

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@reignz - thanks for the tip man, I appreciate you taking the time to give feedback! I think you may have heard the metroid tune I was workn on, I tried to tie the eight bit noises into a more precussive pattern so they fit better, an not so randomly. I was originally going for a simulation of gameplay but after hearing some feedback I realised you were right about the randomness. Again thanks for your time reignz!

check my sig an let me know man!

[paravrais]

@Chicken - Shit the bed, that's a tune 0.o

[mashmash]

@jimbeaux yea, interesting sounds. i think it needs some sort of progression, i'm not sure, it just plods along in stages. you could work on your sub bass as well, it doesn't do that much. give it some rhythm and variation, but yea it sounds interesting

@djraynes nice! synths are good, nice effects in there as well. like it

@grimesyndicate really like the intro. drop is worked up to nicely, good work on the bassline as well

got bored and tried to do a grime track, here it is
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[UnitedFruits]

@Gryme syndicate - I'm likin' the vibes! Really liking the little cut up vocal sounding things! What are they? The panning on the bass is sick aswell! Not really sure about the structure, but then again i find the hardest shit is getting something coherent all the way through.

[Grime Syndicate]

@Gryme syndicate - I'm likin' the vibes! Really liking the little cut up vocal sounding things! What are they? The panning on the bass is sick aswell! Not really sure about the structure, but then again i find the hardest shit is getting something coherent all the way through.

It's just the bit that's right before it, heavily effected. I resampled, then threw an erosion (native ableton effect) on it, as well as a few other downsampling/distortion effects, can't remember the chain exactly. Then, I gated it, and sidechained the gate to the drums. Simples! And did I pan the bass? I don't remember. Not too solid on the structure myself, but the comments make me think this one is worth putting some more time into. Appreciate it... I'll have to peep your track when I get off work. No streaming audio at the office.

[LordBid]

@mashmash - well it is well mixed, I would like to hear more top end on the kick, and maybe a sub-bass, I know your kick is all sub but well it makes this sound kind of like a newschool pop/rap beat or something. since this is dubstep afterall. That isn't a bad thing, in fact its pretty cool great percussion and everything. I don't really have anything negative to say, Umm I would almost like to hear it with less hat hits maybe jsut try it out and see. it seems like the kind of song that could play on the slower side of dubstep's beats. Its very interesting for sure, some love and this will be pretty cool.

@jimbeaux - pretty slick man, this has its own vibe for sure. I really like the snare, and frankly the song itself is uber sick, great percussive changes, sweet sound design and I love the little 8-bit sounding things that glitch out. mixdown is good. I watched you on the soundcloud cus I wanna hear the final version. My only qualm is that I feel like the bass could be sharper and maybe less distorted, but thats just a suggestion and it sounds great the way it is.

@DJRaynes - I think the snare needs a lot more OOMph it sounds so weak. I think your sub is a little too dominant in the mix. I do not really like that main synth it kinda interferes with all the good ambient shit in the background that I like a lot more. I think there need to be more changes in your drum patterns to keep it interesting and to give it some more groove. Overall more changes less of playing the same thing over and over again will help this a lot.

Here is 32 bars of a new song kinda dnb feel to it that I am liking kinda inspired by stigma by noisia if you can't guess. anyway no sub and not properly mixed yet but I kinda like the idea thought id post for some ppls input.
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[rhek]

@ Reignz - Only listening on crappy speakers but.. Sounds dope! Like the sample, dark intro. Only thing i'd say is chuck another wobble sound in there maybe but i dont think it ness needs it.

Work in progress....

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[rainbo]

@Blazinaidan sounds interesting, its difficult to comment on right now because as you've said it still needs melody tracks. Its difficult to get into right now because of all the syncopation but i don't want to say you should change anything because it will probably just all come together when you add your guitar tracks or whatever. but i will say it sounds reminiscent of ratatat which i really like. But also thanks a lot for the feedback, your comment about the eq really helped out.

@Reigns siiick track dude. very tight. i have to firmly disagree with those who said you should remove the breaks. Personally i wish i could the hear them more when then come around. if i had my way i would say during those parts the high pitched distorto thing could come down a bit and the drums could come up. but totally awesome either way. and thanks for the feedback. i did some eqing which i think sounds better but i don't really want to get back into arrangement and composition with this track. just trying to get the mix listenable so i can move on lol.

@DjRaynes Dude thanks a lot for the feedback. your comment about the bass mud was quite useful. i've re-eqed and i think its better. And to answer your question the samps are from Stephen King's "It." As for you're track, pretty sweet. The first verse is a little a repetitive and starts to drag, it needs some excitement of some kind, maybe something as simple as more movement in the sub. I like the second verse a lot more. I like the sub line, i just wish i could hear it more. i would suggest bringing the sub up in the mix during the second verse even though i guess others have suggested it needs to come down. i may be wrong, so take my newb ass advice with a grain of salt. lol.


Ok so here is my track again after re-eqing and a bit of mixing. i also just used the master fader to increase volume instead of trying to newbily master my track and overcompressing everything like i had been. should sound better but it might be a bit quieter.

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[Pete Miles]

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Still a few little tweaks here....see what you think.

[LordBid]

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[Grime Syndicate]

Yeah, I've got a track on the last page that is begging for some feedback.

[LordBid]

@grimesyndicate - so im super stoned and I am listening to your song and it is siiiiiick. THat intro is off the chain well done there sir and also the build is great. I am not a huge fan of that Main-ish sort of synth that plays the little melody there could be more well developed and fit in better with that warping bass. yea it is very schizo, could benefit from some more continuity I think, maybe your switch-ups happen too fast, at least at the beginning. mixdown sounds good otherwise. also your drums a very static right now could use more variation.

[Grime Syndicate]

@grimesyndicate - so im super stoned and I am listening to your song and it is siiiiiick. THat intro is off the chain well done there sir and also the build is great. I am not a huge fan of that Main-ish sort of synth that plays the little melody there could be more well developed and fit in better with that warping bass. yea it is very schizo, could benefit from some more continuity I think, maybe your switch-ups happen too fast, at least at the beginning. mixdown sounds good otherwise. also your drums a very static right now could use more variation.

Wow dude, thanks, truly. Nice to hear the hard work is paying off. That said, I'm gonna take your crit into deep consideration. Its at this point in a track that I get really lazy with it, and wanna just wrap the fucker up. Gotta power thru that shit though. So you're talking about the heavily distorted lead? What direction would you suggest taking it, then? I'm curious as to your thoughts on the matter. You seem to have a keen insight, as the bits you touch on are the ones I'm having the most trouble swallowing as well. I feel like it does change too quickly, but haven't worked out a way to smooth it out yet. Shit, I'm still way new at this. So, your kind words mean much. I'm glad the mixdown's sounding alright tho, I'm using some shit M-audio BX5a's and some REALLY shit Stagg headphones. Good to know it doesn't only sound good from here.

[LordBid]

@grimesyndicate - so im super stoned and I am listening to your song and it is siiiiiick. THat intro is off the chain well done there sir and also the build is great. I am not a huge fan of that Main-ish sort of synth that plays the little melody there could be more well developed and fit in better with that warping bass. yea it is very schizo, could benefit from some more continuity I think, maybe your switch-ups happen too fast, at least at the beginning. mixdown sounds good otherwise. also your drums a very static right now could use more variation.

Wow dude, thanks, truly. Nice to hear the hard work is paying off. That said, I'm gonna take your crit into deep consideration. Its at this point in a track that I get really lazy with it, and wanna just wrap the fucker up. Gotta power thru that shit though. So you're talking about the heavily distorted lead? What direction would you suggest taking it, then? I'm curious as to your thoughts on the matter. You seem to have a keen insight, as the bits you touch on are the ones I'm having the most trouble swallowing as well. I feel like it does change too quickly, but haven't worked out a way to smooth it out yet. Shit, I'm still way new at this. So, your kind words mean much. I'm glad the mixdown's sounding alright tho, I'm using some shit M-audio BX5a's and some REALLY shit Stagg headphones. Good to know it doesn't only sound good from here.

hell yea so ok here is what I am talking about with the lead, it is a little too distorted, I would personally maybe make it stand out a little more with a more clean sound, and make sure it is not conflicting with that bass using some EQ. As far as changes they were good, but I think a little bit of repetition wouldn't hurt here, repetition can be good when done correctly so it doesn't get monotonous. As far as drums go very rarely do current day songs have the exact same 2bar loop playing, that is kind of old-school now. I suggest you go and really listen to some of your favorite tunes and see how much work those producers put into their drum patterns. Dubstep is all about syncopation and groove and the more your bass and drums correlate the better off you will be. Especially pay attention to hihat patterns because tiny changes can be huge for what you are doing.

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[rainbo]

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for real!

[shaneynclan]

LordBid
I really like your shit dude, I felt that the random jumps and stops were a cool addition, but I felt as if the hats were kind of barren and boring, maybe add some more hats in there to spice it up.
rhek
your track had a sick intro, there was just a random chord in there that i felt didn't fit. When the main part of the track kicks in, I like it, alot lots of good bassline variation to keep the track interesting overall. After a few bars though the main sequence itself got a little monotonous though imo. But you did follow up with a decent downbeat section of the track.
Pete Miles
the structure of your track was good, but the hats themselves had too much high end and got a bit piercing imo.
when the main part kicks in holy shit, this is the kind of bassline i like alot and OH MAN you had some dope changeups in there that sounded awesome.

my track that i've been working on atm:
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[Sirius]

http://soundcloud.com/soulshynchyld/inner-tribute-wip
yeah im guna hit & run... hollah & lll hollah at ya back!
!!chea

[LordBid]

Ok so I refuse to respond to any posts that haven't posted 3 feedback's so here are some more for those of you that did.

@Shaneynclan - well I gotta say your mix-down is excellent lovin the super-snare! Everything is very crisp and clean. I could say the same thing about your drums that you had about mine, they are a little static and do not really help your bass. I think this song could use some more groove to it. The bass almost seems to be playing random lfo speeds/notes. I think you could benefit from a little bit of repetition so that your song feel's a little more coherent. Right now it is almost too varied to the point that your message gets taken away. But yea think about what your melody is doing and might I suggest making it a little simpler and have it run with your drums better, slow the hihats down here speed them up there change the kicks etc..... Other than that I really like that bubbly intro and the drop is kind of so-so not super exciting but gets the job done. Also sometimes it seems like your sub-bass might have a couple of hits that are noticeably more powerful I dunno if you intended that but I did notice it.

@Rainbo - lol those samples seem a little lost in all the delay like I can't really tell to well what he is saying which I think you may want to alter. As of right now your mix-down needs a lot of work. your sub/bass is overpowering your kick drum, try sidechain/eq and make the kick bigger than the bass in the mix. But yea its WAY too overpowering. More variation in the drums would be nice as they are kinda just looped sounding. Needs a lot of work to cement the overall idea. I think you are on the right track with your sounds, they just need to be mixed better and the overall composition needs better flow with transitions etc. But really work on your mixdown as it is the dealbreaker.

@paravrais - Like the silly Asian-esqe instrument. I think your snare needs way more presence in the mix. Also your drums need more variation, even though I really like all the panning and subtlety going on there, sounds sick. your kick seems like it is a little muddy to me and perhaps the sub is a little bit to big in the mix. But only by small amounts. Not really my style of tune but a good start.


Here is my revised track cus the other one I posted earlier sucked, I will return any and all feedback don't be offended if I didn't respond to your track if you didn't post feedback cus that is what this is all about.

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[EDN]

@Rhek: Nice feel you got to that one, I like it! I would maybe layer your snare with another one an octave higher to give it a bit more presence, or maybe add a little reverb tail. it just sounds a little weak. Otherwise nice stuff well done.

@Rainbo: Sounds clearer on the low mids, but I would try and beef up your bass drum and your snare. More so the bass but maybe do what I said above, adding another snare thats higher, or empasising the high with eq or something. But mainly the bass drum, its getting swamped.

@shaneynclan: Big tune!! Drums are phat, synths are nice, however it does feel a bit sparse in the sub bass department, it might just be my monitors but I was listening to it pretty fuckin loud and most of the sub just isn't there. However don't take my word for it, check it out on a big system to see how it shakes. But thats a sick tune mate!

@Lordbid: Nice synths and some good flow, likeing the kinda electro break-y bits. However I think your drums are set too loud, they stand out a bit too much, I would turn them down by a few dB and add a little compression to give them a little more bite, but thats just me. Nice sounds though!

Yeah I apologise, this really shouldn't be on Dubstep Forum as its in no way dubstep or even anything like it, but I need some feedback on this, mainly just on the progression, melodies and levelling. (I know the strings sound artificial but I'm getting the EWQL Orchestra gold pack very soon and hopefully I can get it sounding a bit more natural.
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Cheers!!