Pitch relationship between 33 and 45 rpm

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Pitch relationship between 33 and 45 rpm

Post by nowaysj » Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:46 pm

Jello,

What is the pitch relationship between 45 rpm and 33 rpm?

I've read that it is a little more than a fifth. A C would go down to F, and just a little flatter than that...

Is this true?

I've sampled some stuff off of a 45 at 33. I'm putting everything together by ear (because I'm a semi-functioning retard) but would like to know theoretically whats what.

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Re: Pitch relationship between 33 and 45 rpm

Post by Recessive Trait » Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:57 pm

would it not change from note to note? or is it indeed a direct translation?

run some tests. publish the results.

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Re: Pitch relationship between 33 and 45 rpm

Post by logic pro » Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:00 pm

interesting question, hers a answer form future producer, seems about right:
The ratio is just over 3/2 (it's really 15/11), so it'll drop the pitch by just over a fifth. If your original recording was in C, the slow version will be in F. Actually it will be just flat of F, but not as far down as E, so you'll have to do some tweaking of pitch knobs to get everything in sync perfectly.
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Re: Pitch relationship between 33 and 45 rpm

Post by nowaysj » Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:05 pm

:oops:

thats where I got my loose info from. :)

Was hoping some turntabilst/music theory hybrid genius could shed legit light on this question.
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Re: Pitch relationship between 33 and 45 rpm

Post by Basic A » Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:33 pm

33 - 45 rpm = 35% = 6 semitones :D:
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Re: Pitch relationship between 33 and 45 rpm

Post by apastrat » Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:33 pm

wouldn't it work like this:
1. make a random test tone, pitch it up from 100% to 45%, look what note it's playing.
2. undo and pitch up to 33%, look what note it's playing now.
3. look the difference between those two notes

no?

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Re: Pitch relationship between 33 and 45 rpm

Post by Basic A » Mon Nov 08, 2010 6:39 pm

apastrat wrote:wouldn't it work like this:
1. make a random test tone, pitch it up from 100% to 45%, look what note it's playing.
2. undo and pitch up to 33%, look what note it's playing now.
3. look the difference between those two notes

no?
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Re: Pitch relationship between 33 and 45 rpm

Post by staticcast » Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:18 pm

45 / 33.333 = 1.35 -------> pitch ratio between 45 and 33 1/3

log2 (1.35) = 0.4330 (number of octaves)

0.4330 x 12 = 5.12 semitones (on a 12TET scale)
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Re: Pitch relationship between 33 and 45 rpm

Post by nowaysj » Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:51 pm

quod erat demonstrandum
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