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Post by nicenice » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:58 am

It might be your only chance to listen to it.

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Post by phrex » Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:34 am

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Re: Kode9 plays ... Burial – Exclusive European Debut

Post by soultown » Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:52 am

nicenice wrote:It might be your only chance to listen to it.
This.

Kode9 has ruined Burial for me. All his bullshit tweets and comments are so arrogant. Lets be honest - if Will Bevan had sent his early demo's to someone like Warp, Hyperdub would be considerably smaller and wouldnt get nearly as much praise.

I couldnt really care about his new music - this whole palava has pushed me away.

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Re: Kode9 plays ... Burial – Exclusive European Debut

Post by dr h » Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:27 am

soultown wrote:
nicenice wrote:It might be your only chance to listen to it.
This.

Kode9 has ruined Burial for me. All his bullshit tweets and comments are so arrogant. Lets be honest - if Will Bevan had sent his early demo's to someone like Warp, Hyperdub would be considerably smaller and wouldnt get nearly as much praise.

I couldnt really care about his new music - this whole palava has pushed me away.
while i do agree that kode9 has developed a massive ego as a result of his labels success (read: burial), its unfair to criticise burial, just because he is on hyperdub. in fact, i get the impression burial doesn't really care all that much about the whole music releasing process and probably just wants to distance himself from the zealots and thick-as-shit media. in that respect, kode9 acts as a pretty good buffer.

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Re: Kode9 plays ... Burial – Exclusive European Debut

Post by nicenice » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:23 pm

dr h wrote:
soultown wrote:
nicenice wrote:It might be your only chance to listen to it.
This.

Kode9 has ruined Burial for me. All his bullshit tweets and comments are so arrogant. Lets be honest - if Will Bevan had sent his early demo's to someone like Warp, Hyperdub would be considerably smaller and wouldnt get nearly as much praise.

I couldnt really care about his new music - this whole palava has pushed me away.
while i do agree that kode9 has developed a massive ego as a result of his labels success (read: burial), its unfair to criticise burial, just because he is on hyperdub. in fact, i get the impression burial doesn't really care all that much about the whole music releasing process and probably just wants to distance himself from the zealots and thick-as-shit media. in that respect, kode9 acts as a pretty good buffer.
which is why kode9 does it

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Post by qwaycee_ » Wed Nov 10, 2010 1:04 pm

lol i never follow tweets, i'm really unfamiliar with this whole "kode 9's ego" thing...now i'm curious.

he seems like a decent fellow in interviews. a bit serious...but i never got an ego vibe.

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Re: Kode9 plays ... Burial – Exclusive European Debut

Post by joeki » Wed Nov 10, 2010 3:00 pm

Quote Kode9 (bass weight)

"Burial was not some contrived marketing scheme, he just didn't like his pictures taken"


They're just doing their thing. I believe that Burial will (or will not) release new material when they feel they're ready and the quality is guaranteed.
Let's face it, everyone is expecting full albums and I think we can all agree that Both Burial albums were the most cohesive albums ever made in this genre. It needs to be cohesive and worthwhile, otherwise why even bother with a release if it feels like lowering his own standards to him.

Remember, our standard might no be the same as his...

I for one would rather have three (or two so far) of the best albums ever made, than one for each year were the special feeling is just getting lost.
:n:

And the fact that tunes like True Love VIP, Speedball2, Gaslight and Feral Witchchild will just haunt the internet forever without anyone actually owning them....I think it's a bit of comforting feeling, I can appreciate it, however unfortunate it may be to some.
Let's face it, these tunes are extra special just because of that.

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Post by feral witchchild » Wed Nov 10, 2010 3:04 pm

soultown wrote: Lets be honest - if Will Bevan had sent his early demo's to someone like Warp, Hyperdub would be considerably smaller and wouldnt get nearly as much praise.
Eh, I think they'd still have been pretty successful in terms of the UK, but yeah.

I mean, shit, I wouldn't give a fuck about garage OR dubstep if I hadn't heard Burial, and I know many people for whom this is the case (I'm in Queens, NY).

I don't mean to say that in arrogant way, either - the majority of music that is released in this scene stays within the scene, like with any style of underground music, really...

...and if I had heard something like Borgore before hearing Burial I'd have given the fuck up on it as a genre and never looked back.
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Post by herbalicious » Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:23 pm

feral witchchild wrote:
soultown wrote: Lets be honest - if Will Bevan had sent his early demo's to someone like Warp, Hyperdub would be considerably smaller and wouldnt get nearly as much praise.
Eh, I think they'd still have been pretty successful in terms of the UK, but yeah.

I mean, shit, I wouldn't give a fuck about garage OR dubstep if I hadn't heard Burial, and I know many people for whom this is the case (I'm in Queens, NY).

I don't mean to say that in arrogant way, either - the majority of music that is released in this scene stays within the scene, like with any style of underground music, really...

...and if I had heard something like Borgore before hearing Burial I'd have given the fuck up on it as a genre and never looked back.
Agree 100% with everythign you said there. I got into this from Burial also (and I'm about 40miles from Croydon)...I was thinking this exact thing the other day, if I hadn't heard him first and heard say...Caspa, there's no way in hell I'd have got into this. I was a garage head back in the day, and it was music in my ears to hear those sounds return....I wouldn't have understood the wompy wompy stuff at. all.
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Post by seckle » Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:18 pm

soultown wrote:I couldnt really care about his new music - this whole palava has pushed me away.
but you're posting in a burial thread about new burial, on a forum that for the most part is obsessed with burial. how does it feel to go around in circles? you'll be one of the first to buy the new material. anyone that cares enough about music to go ahead and claim its beyond them is full of it.

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Post by goonstock » Wed Nov 10, 2010 5:33 pm

mighta missed it, if someone posted it in here..

how long were the Kode9 burial sets?
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Post by joeki » Wed Nov 10, 2010 6:09 pm

goonstock wrote:mighta missed it, if someone posted it in here..

how long were the Kode9 burial sets?
30 minutes

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Post by tacho » Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:34 pm

comment by the person who made the thief #1 (burial - the thief)
maryann3333 wrote:i wanted to create a viral thing, a pirate thing. my thoughts were about how people are tricked by media day to day and how advertising does it, too. i swear that i won't use this as a promotional trick for my own music. i'm an audio amateur who started making music in 2006. at least burials music made me starting. i'm working at a little noncommercial radiostation in my hometown.
music and also underground music became such a nasty business. i remember when i was young and me and mates went to clubs, dancing, having nice times. no one ever cared about the who-is-who. no one cared about any producer. we listened to tunes. media started spotting the scene. more and more journalists were writing about producers, tunes and albums. what for? - profit.
can't do that. i would never release something by just craving for money.
i can understand the commercial issue when it's about manufacturing costs to release something on vinyl. yeah, i get that. - but i don't get it to pay money for ideas or knowledge or education.
this is fake. is it? - no, it's not. otherwise everything in art and music is faked, because it is emulated from your own cognition of existing art or music or nature itself.
call it the name burial, call it the name thief, call it the name fake. it remains a tune, a piece of music.
there are so many tunes out there, which just sound like fullfilling the plastic consumer needs our society creates.
my ambition to do this action was to post this statement. there are a lot of ways to publish music. - creative commons liscences, no rights reserved, copyleft music... pirate radio is hypocrisy, if it's followed by the sell out of cd's and tunes at the supermarket.
don't get me wrong, i'm not a hater of hyperdubs sucess. i appreciate the music, i also love the stuff by kode 9 darkstar and lv. but i hate music industries. profit haunting industries in general. and i really don't like forums, magazines and all thoose bubbles creating wrong attention on wrong things like it happend in this case.
of course i am NOT burial.
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Post by dr h » Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:21 pm

tacho wrote:comment by the person who made the thief #1 (burial - the thief)
maryann3333 wrote:i wanted to create a viral thing, a pirate thing. my thoughts were about how people are tricked by media day to day and how advertising does it, too. i swear that i won't use this as a promotional trick for my own music. i'm an audio amateur who started making music in 2006. at least burials music made me starting. i'm working at a little noncommercial radiostation in my hometown.
music and also underground music became such a nasty business. i remember when i was young and me and mates went to clubs, dancing, having nice times. no one ever cared about the who-is-who. no one cared about any producer. we listened to tunes. media started spotting the scene. more and more journalists were writing about producers, tunes and albums. what for? - profit.
can't do that. i would never release something by just craving for money.
i can understand the commercial issue when it's about manufacturing costs to release something on vinyl. yeah, i get that. - but i don't get it to pay money for ideas or knowledge or education.
this is fake. is it? - no, it's not. otherwise everything in art and music is faked, because it is emulated from your own cognition of existing art or music or nature itself.
call it the name burial, call it the name thief, call it the name fake. it remains a tune, a piece of music.
there are so many tunes out there, which just sound like fullfilling the plastic consumer needs our society creates.
my ambition to do this action was to post this statement. there are a lot of ways to publish music. - creative commons liscences, no rights reserved, copyleft music... pirate radio is hypocrisy, if it's followed by the sell out of cd's and tunes at the supermarket.
don't get me wrong, i'm not a hater of hyperdubs sucess. i appreciate the music, i also love the stuff by kode 9 darkstar and lv. but i hate music industries. profit haunting industries in general. and i really don't like forums, magazines and all thoose bubbles creating wrong attention on wrong things like it happend in this case.
of course i am NOT burial.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPrfbG44G7M
aka, you

you could have just posted that on the forum in the first place. using other peoples music as a way to spread a message (or truthfully, further ones own career) is nothing new. it happens every time autechre release an album, afterall.

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Post by fractal » Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:07 am

seckle wrote:
soultown wrote:I couldnt really care about his new music - this whole palava has pushed me away.
but you're posting in a burial thread about new burial, on a forum that for the most part is obsessed with burial. how does it feel to go around in circles? you'll be one of the first to buy the new material. anyone that cares enough about music to go ahead and claim its beyond them is full of it.
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Post by zitanb » Thu Nov 11, 2010 3:00 am

I love MAH, Kode9 and Burial.

Don't you guys think that both Kode9/Hyperdub and MAH have done a lot for the underground/dubstep movement?

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Post by polzyx » Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:11 am

zitanb wrote:I love MAH, Kode9 and Burial.

Don't you guys think that both Kode9/Hyperdub and MAH have done a lot for the underground/dubstep movement?

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as an inspiration - of course.

But "Untrue" was underground few years ago? It was the greatest electronic album IMO !
Besides Hyperdub is releasing a lot of non-dubstep stuff right now :) .

Anyways K9/Hyperdub have written themselves in not-generic-at-all dubstep label, and they are really pushing massive things.
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Post by null » Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:30 am

I agree with polzyx. Untrue was an album entirely of it's own.

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Post by zitanb » Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:51 am

polzyx wrote: It was the greatest electronic album IMO !

Besides Hyperdub is releasing a lot of non-dubstep stuff right now :) .

Anyways K9/Hyperdub have written themselves in not-generic-at-all dubstep label, and they are really pushing massive things.
Well I totally agree with that first comment. That with maybe Amon Tobin's Foley Room (with Bloodstone) 2nd imho.

I haven't been keeping up with all Hyperdub releases right now - so I won't comment there.

I just wonder if MAH in particular and Hyperdub helped bring dubstep/grime out to a wider audience. There will be some industry buffs around here who will know that better than me.

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