maryann3333 - "Burial - Thief"

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Re: Burial - Thief

Post by Devry_Kaneda » Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:21 pm

I have the WAV

pm if interested.

Loving the bassline in this.

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Re: Burial - Thief

Post by dopocc » Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:05 am

fractal wrote:
dopocc wrote:
abe wrote:
incnic wrote: it is ZOMBY
:a:

no it's not by zomby. i can tell from absolutely reliable source.
Yah don't think Zomby would waste time to do a Burial - rip off


:6:
-q- yeah ok, but still this was ages ago.. :roll:

seriously though I think now-days he has an album to finish so I would think he favors more of a personal sound. (Also about to complete an Eski album if I remember correctly? Heard 3 Eski tunes of his on Dusk & Blackdown's last rinse show)

On the subject, think I prefer this than Prophecy :)

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Re: Burial - Thief (impostor burial)

Post by dopocc » Wed Nov 10, 2010 11:14 am

maryann3333 wrote:
November 04, 2010

i wanted to create a viral thing, a pirate thing. my thoughts were about how people are tricked by media day to day and how advertising does it, too. i swear that i won't use this as a promotional trick for my own music. i'm an audio amateur who started making music in 2006. at least burials music made me starting. i'm working at a little noncommercial radiostation in my hometown.
music and also underground music became such a nasty business. i remember when i was young and me and mates went to clubs, dancing, having nice times. no one ever cared about the who-is-who. no one cared about any producer. we listened to tunes. media started spotting the scene. more and more journalists were writing about producers, tunes and albums. what for? - profit.
can't do that. i would never release something by just craving for money.
i can understand the commercial issue when it's about manufacturing costs to release something on vinyl. yeah, i get that. - but i don't get it to pay money for ideas or knowledge or education.
this is fake. is it? - no, it's not. otherwise everything in art and music is faked, because it is emulated from your own cognition of existing art or music or nature itself.
call it the name burial, call it the name thief, call it the name fake. it remains a tune, a piece of music.
there are so many tunes out there, which just sound like fullfilling the plastic consumer needs our society creates.
my ambition to do this action was to post this statement. there are a lot of ways to publish music. - creative commons liscences, no rights reserved, copyleft music... pirate radio is hypocrisy, if it's followed by the sell out of cd's and tunes at the supermarket.
don't get me wrong, i'm not a hater of hyperdubs sucess. i appreciate the music, i also love the stuff by kode 9 darkstar and lv. but i hate music industries. profit haunting industries in general. and i really don't like forums, magazines and all thoose bubbles creating wrong attention on wrong things like it happend in this case.

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Re: Burial - Thief (impostor burial)

Post by FackOff » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:02 pm

dopocc wrote:
maryann3333 wrote:
November 04, 2010

i wanted to create a viral thing, a pirate thing. my thoughts were about how people are tricked by media day to day and how advertising does it, too. i swear that i won't use this as a promotional trick for my own music. i'm an audio amateur who started making music in 2006. at least burials music made me starting. i'm working at a little noncommercial radiostation in my hometown.
music and also underground music became such a nasty business. i remember when i was young and me and mates went to clubs, dancing, having nice times. no one ever cared about the who-is-who. no one cared about any producer. we listened to tunes. media started spotting the scene. more and more journalists were writing about producers, tunes and albums. what for? - profit.
can't do that. i would never release something by just craving for money.
i can understand the commercial issue when it's about manufacturing costs to release something on vinyl. yeah, i get that. - but i don't get it to pay money for ideas or knowledge or education.
this is fake. is it? - no, it's not. otherwise everything in art and music is faked, because it is emulated from your own cognition of existing art or music or nature itself.
call it the name burial, call it the name thief, call it the name fake. it remains a tune, a piece of music.
there are so many tunes out there, which just sound like fullfilling the plastic consumer needs our society creates.
my ambition to do this action was to post this statement. there are a lot of ways to publish music. - creative commons liscences, no rights reserved, copyleft music... pirate radio is hypocrisy, if it's followed by the sell out of cd's and tunes at the supermarket.
don't get me wrong, i'm not a hater of hyperdubs sucess. i appreciate the music, i also love the stuff by kode 9 darkstar and lv. but i hate music industries. profit haunting industries in general. and i really don't like forums, magazines and all thoose bubbles creating wrong attention on wrong things like it happend in this case.
burial mk2
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Re: Burial - Thief (impostor burial)

Post by therapist » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:29 pm

dopocc wrote:
maryann3333 wrote:
November 04, 2010

i wanted to create a viral thing, a pirate thing. my thoughts were about how people are tricked by media day to day and how advertising does it, too. i swear that i won't use this as a promotional trick for my own music. i'm an audio amateur who started making music in 2006. at least burials music made me starting. i'm working at a little noncommercial radiostation in my hometown.
music and also underground music became such a nasty business. i remember when i was young and me and mates went to clubs, dancing, having nice times. no one ever cared about the who-is-who. no one cared about any producer. we listened to tunes. media started spotting the scene. more and more journalists were writing about producers, tunes and albums. what for? - profit.
can't do that. i would never release something by just craving for money.
i can understand the commercial issue when it's about manufacturing costs to release something on vinyl. yeah, i get that. - but i don't get it to pay money for ideas or knowledge or education.
this is fake. is it? - no, it's not. otherwise everything in art and music is faked, because it is emulated from your own cognition of existing art or music or nature itself.
call it the name burial, call it the name thief, call it the name fake. it remains a tune, a piece of music.
there are so many tunes out there, which just sound like fullfilling the plastic consumer needs our society creates.
my ambition to do this action was to post this statement. there are a lot of ways to publish music. - creative commons liscences, no rights reserved, copyleft music... pirate radio is hypocrisy, if it's followed by the sell out of cd's and tunes at the supermarket.
don't get me wrong, i'm not a hater of hyperdubs sucess. i appreciate the music, i also love the stuff by kode 9 darkstar and lv. but i hate music industries. profit haunting industries in general. and i really don't like forums, magazines and all thoose bubbles creating wrong attention on wrong things like it happend in this case.
Fucking commies!

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Re: Burial - Thief (impostor burial)

Post by prism » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:44 pm

this guy tried so hard.

how funny

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Re: Burial - Thief (impostor burial)

Post by Motorway to Roswell » Wed Nov 10, 2010 12:47 pm

Motorway to Roswell wrote:It could be someone who just wanted to make a tune in the style of Burial to see if people thought it was him or not.
Told you.
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Re: Burial - Thief (impostor burial)

Post by damu » Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:05 pm

FackOff wrote:
dopocc wrote:
maryann3333 wrote:
burial mk2
so you've spectacularly missed the point then?

an admirable attitude by a very talented producer. you have to question the motive behind so carefully following the sound of such a revered artist and spreading a viral video as someone who apparently doesn't like playign up to media. i'm surprised more people don't do exactly this kind of thing tho

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Re: Burial - Thief (impostor burial)

Post by abe » Wed Nov 10, 2010 4:19 pm

reminds me of the yes man. http://theyesmen.org/

and look at all of you.......

"who is it?" did the job again.

you just have to admit that it worked very well. there was a hype going on. :roll:

i hope this just changes something in your mind and behavior.

:w:

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Re: Burial - Thief (impostor burial)

Post by FackOff » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:21 pm

damu wrote:
FackOff wrote:
dopocc wrote:
maryann3333 wrote:
burial mk2
so you've spectacularly missed the point then?

an admirable attitude by a very talented producer. you have to question the motive behind so carefully following the sound of such a revered artist and spreading a viral video as someone who apparently doesn't like playign up to media. i'm surprised more people don't do exactly this kind of thing tho
not doubting his talent, that was said more as a joke than anything else.it was clever to release that tune with that video (like somebody did with gutted) to create the hype so big up whoever did it for that.but as i said it was more a joke than anything else :m:
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Re: Burial - Thief (impostor burial)

Post by thecheesesticks » Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:31 pm

i thinks its enough of a compliment that alotta people think this is actually burial :D
Nice job! and i like the way u think

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Re: Burial - Thief (impostor burial)

Post by soultown » Wed Nov 10, 2010 10:25 pm

he sounds like a ponce...

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Re: Burial - Thief (impostor burial)

Post by fractal » Thu Nov 11, 2010 12:57 am

soultown wrote:he sounds like a ponce...
And only his drum work slightly resembled burial. Other than that, the tune was to burial as some are to coki... Just a watered down version of someone elses original sound. @ the experiment: it only proves what we already know about the hype of a name or label, such as burial or prada

imo

The artist definitely has talent tho, really hope we hear some other stuff, however it may sound
sub.wise:.
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Re: maryann3333 - "Burial - Thief"

Post by qwaycee_ » Thu Nov 11, 2010 2:26 am

i remember before i even bothered to register on this forum, there was a guy who posted somewhat actively who had a lot of burialesque tunes...he got torn a new asshole, was called a biter, dickrider etc and never posted again.

could it be him -q- ?


can't recall his name though. he was pretty good at what he did, even if it was burialish in nature.


* well that quote is from "maryann"....

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Re: maryann3333 - "Burial - Thief"

Post by mondays child » Thu Nov 11, 2010 4:33 pm

qwaycee_ wrote:i remember before i even bothered to register on this forum, there was a guy who posted somewhat actively who had a lot of burialesque tunes...he got torn a new asshole, was called a biter, dickrider etc and never posted again.

could it be him ?


can't recall his name though. he was pretty good at what he did, even if it was burialish in nature.
I think there's a difference between outright 'photocopying' of a sound and assimilation of technique.
I think the dude you mentioned actually sampled from the source. Right down to sampling the drums to create a very
similar pattern and sound. I wouldn't do it personally, and it's just a personal thing.
I'm not saying it's wrong to sample hits and things from a track, it's where your music begins and ends. Is it trying to recreate and immitate or is the person trying to create something new and different? if only slightly different. Is it like a copy artist re creating the works of Van Gogh to an exact standard. Or a student of the art that appreciates the technique and tries to forge a new perspective. Art and music exists on this evolutionary principle. If the art is bad or poor then it stands as it is- a poor work of art, but if it has some kind of integrity, then why shouldn't it exist? Ideas and techniques aren't either mutually exclusive or copywritable.

It's always going to be a runaway train, this subject.

It never ceases to surprise me how objectionable some can be. I remember some quote form somewhere
along the lines of "the world doesn't need another Burial" which seems a bit premature really, sure he has a uniqueness
and originality. But has also aluded to trying to recreate the sound of his heroes, so why does that preclude anyone else trying their hand at similar techniques? sounds almost like some kind of discrimination to me.
if the phrase was changed to "the world doesn't need another Caspa" then perhaps that argument may have
validity!
The phrase 'immitation is the sincerest form of flattery' isn't good advice.
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Re: maryann3333 - "Burial - Thief"

Post by soultown » Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:16 am

*cocks gun and takes aim*

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Re: maryann3333 - "Burial - Thief"

Post by mondays child » Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:01 am

Well done.
:u: :u: :u:

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Re: maryann3333 - "Burial - Thief"

Post by therapist » Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:14 pm

qwaycee_ wrote:i remember before i even bothered to register on this forum, there was a guy who posted somewhat actively who had a lot of burialesque tunes...he got torn a new asshole, was called a biter, dickrider etc and never posted again.

could it be him -q- ?


can't recall his name though. he was pretty good at what he did, even if it was burialish in nature.


* well that quote is from "maryann"....
Something beginning with 'R'??? And yeah, wouldn't shut up about his tunes every time anyone mentioned Burial.

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Re: maryann3333 - "Burial - Thief"

Post by qwaycee_ » Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:39 pm

therapist wrote:
qwaycee_ wrote:i remember before i even bothered to register on this forum, there was a guy who posted somewhat actively who had a lot of burialesque tunes...he got torn a new asshole, was called a biter, dickrider etc and never posted again.

could it be him -q- ?


can't recall his name though. he was pretty good at what he did, even if it was burialish in nature.


* well that quote is from "maryann"....
Something beginning with 'R'??? And yeah, wouldn't shut up about his tunes every time anyone mentioned Burial.

yeeeeeah 'r'. trying to track that shit down right now.

*** hahahahaha i type in "burial soundalike" and theres a thread on it!

http://www.dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.p ... e#p1309537

******** doesnt reveal the 'r' guy but i remember who you're talking about. i think it was like 'rocket' or some shit.

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Re: maryann3333 - "Burial - Thief"

Post by Motorway to Roswell » Fri Nov 12, 2010 7:04 pm

Roqqert?
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