Fuck the UK

[ST100]

Just like to clarify, the entire time I've been talking about current scenes. Obviously the best HH has come from the US, but recent years the UK has overtaken.

[pkay]

Just like to clarify, the entire time I've been talking about current scenes. Obviously the best HH has come from the US, but recent years the UK has overtaken.

taken over what?

[wubstep]

...in terms of quality. This thread is dumb, it's personal preference and I'm stating mine.

[ST100]

...in terms of quality. This thread is dumb, it's personal preference and I'm stating mine.

But we have hip hop too, which trumps the US scene, mainstream and underground.

.................doesn't really look like you were just stating your personal preference.

but I know, you just got embarrassed and tried to play it off cool. it's all good.

[pkay]

well it's a fact that there is no mainstream UK HH taking over. Your exports of hip hop in the mainstream are virtually non existant. So that's false.

Underground hip hop, if it even existed still, wouldn't be 'taking over' anything as then it would cease to be underground. It may be taking over your neighborhood, but Mattron and myself can confirm that it's sure as fuck not taking over here.

I was just chattin shit earlier but before i have a go I'm wanting to make sure you're trying to compare the talent level of UK Hip Hop to that of what we have stateside.

[wubstep]

How can that be interpreted any other way than my preference?

Embarrased, of what? Should be embarrassed of how petty this is.

Enough, tunes.






I didn't say it was 'taking over' anything, I said the UK scene was now superior in my opinion, don't see what's so hard to digest about that.

[.onelove.]

Lol @ how angsty Americans are getting over questioning US Hip Hop, but would soon throw a hissy fit if you mentioned UK Bass music being massively superior to their scene.

[capo ultra]

UK HipHop is bollocks to be fair, the underground shit is too po faced, the mainstream shit is tired and cliched unfortunately

[j_one]

lol @ being concerned about mainstream hip hop on either side of the pond anyway... it's all fucking shit, especially recently. Like really fucking bad.

[Mortal]

actually UK HH can be decent aswell, i take it back

this is exactly what i was gonna post, akala goes hard!

[capo ultra]

lol @ being concerned about mainstream hip hop on either side of the pond anyway... it's all fucking shit, especially recently. Like really fucking bad.

mainstream hiphop is way more innovative than underground hiphop

[j_one]

It depresses me what's regarded as "hip hop" in the mainstream these days.

[ST100]

Lol @ how angsty Americans are getting over questioning US Hip Hop, but would soon throw a hissy fit if you mentioned UK Bass music being massively superior to their scene.

I think we all know UK Bass music kills US any day of the week.

[Pistonsbeneath]

with us and uk hip-hop it seems to be the case that all the best production is uk but our vocalists cannot hold a candle to the best of the us

obviously there are exceptions

[ahier]

i think the reason i never got into hip hop much is because everyone is so territorially petty about what is good and what is not, its all so anorak-y.
everyone likes different things from a vocalist, cant people just accept that and appreciate each other scenes attempts?


...oh wait, thats not human nature.

[64hz]

neither UK > US
or
UK < US
but
UK =/= US

[symmetricalsounds]

U.S is bangin

[pkay]

with us and uk hip-hop it seems to be the case that all the best production is uk but our vocalists cannot hold a candle to the best of the us

obviously there are exceptions

To me, your producers are all attempting to sound like 1994 New York Hip Hop. Talented producers in there but few are doing really anything innovative.

[knell]

thread that's not particularly interesting goes 5+ pages... i always click it, because i know that people are arguing

[belalala]

Lol @ how angsty Americans are getting over questioning US Hip Hop, but would soon throw a hissy fit if you mentioned UK Bass music being massively superior to their scene.

I think we all know UK Bass music kills US any day of the week.

any kid who's trying to say the bass music scene in the US is - on a wide level - more innovative, successful in the mainstream, or progressive than the UK's.... is a fool.
coming from an american mind you.
yes this thread is personal preference, but even if my personal preference were DZ, 12th Planet, Antiserum, The Widdler, etc., the reason they are even able to be a preference is because of good things happening across the pond.
ps - Roots Manuva himself said UK hip hop has struggled (not as much recently however) to find its own voice and growth.