WikiLeaks

[crackf]

New leak, sickening stuff

yesss that is, anyone sure its definatly legit? cause it reeks of /b/ making up a story

[Sirius]

have a look around the web... ya will find a source bro!

& yeah... 100% legit

!!chea

[crackf]

dayng thats pretty grim news then

[nousd]

Oz ex-PM Rudd may be a loser/egotist/control freak etc.
but it was heart-warming for him to straight out say:
this is an American stuff up
plus
those that suggested that WikiLeaks has done something illegal are madly backpedalling,
upon realizing that every politician and newspaper that has reported a leak is likewise guilty.

[hackman]

have a look around the web... ya will find a source bro!

& yeah... 100% legit

!!chea

"100% legit"

i'd love to be able to read something and know instantly the exact percentage of it's reliability
why haven't you been snapped up for some high pay job yet?

[Sirius]

its 100% legit that the boy was paid for services.... but thats not to say that they fucked him like!
he could have been doing a traditional dance for all I know, based upon the leak.
There is def more to the story than what is in the cable, but the information & video of the situation concerned...
were never made available by a certain journalist, for fear of peoples lives being lost over it.

so make of it as ya will.... but a situation definitely occurred!!

heres the link to the cable in question - http://213.251.145.96/cable/2009/06/09KABUL1651.html

!!chea

[frank grimes jr.]

I posted that on page ten suckas.

[aftee]

As far as the leaks go, yeah that's cool. But for anybody who actually tries to stand up for Assange like he's some sort of gift from god...you're an idiot.

[deadly_habit]

As far as the leaks go, yeah that's cool. But for anybody who actually tries to stand up for Assange like he's some sort of gift from god...you're an idiot.

bingo

[frank grimes jr.]

I agree with that.

The problem is however, that he is being treated like a criminal, while the rest of the people that publish this information are overlooked.
He didn't personally steal the data from the US government, and the person who did is at trial.
Does not compute?

[alphacat]

New leak, sickening stuff

yesss that is, anyone sure its definatly legit? cause it reeks of /b/ making up a story

It's very well documented in Pashtun tribal culture that this happens - the Taliban were the only group to come along in hundreds of years who could apparently put any kind of halt to the practice.

Afghanistan's dirty little secret

Western forces fighting in southern Afghanistan had a problem. Too often, soldiers on patrol passed an older man walking hand-in-hand with a pretty young boy. Their behavior suggested he was not the boy's father. Then, British soldiers found that young Afghan men were actually trying to "touch and fondle them," military investigator AnnaMaria Cardinalli told me. "The soldiers didn't understand."

All of this was so disconcerting that the Defense Department hired Cardinalli, a social scientist, to examine this mystery. Her report, "Pashtun Sexuality," startled not even one Afghan. But Western forces were shocked - and repulsed.

For centuries, Afghan men have taken boys, roughly 9 to 15 years old, as lovers. Some research suggests that half the Pashtun tribal members in Kandahar and other southern towns are bacha baz, the term for an older man with a boy lover. Literally it means "boy player." The men like to boast about it.

"Having a boy has become a custom for us," Enayatullah, a 42-year-old in Baghlan province, told a Reuters reporter. "Whoever wants to show off should have a boy."

Baghlan province is in the northeast, but Afghans say pedophilia is most prevalent among Pashtun men in the south. The Pashtun are Afghanistan's most important tribe. For centuries, the nation's leaders have been Pashtun.

President Hamid Karzai is Pashtun, from a village near Kandahar, and he has six brothers. So the natural question arises: Has anyone in the Karzai family been bacha baz? Two Afghans with close connections to the Karzai family told me they know that at least one family member and perhaps two were bacha baz. Afraid of retribution, both declined to be identified and would not be more specific for publication.

As for Karzai, an American who worked in and around his palace in an official capacity for many months told me that homosexual behavior "was rampant" among "soldiers and guys on the security detail. They talked about boys all the time."

He added, "I didn't see Karzai with anyone. He was in his palace most of the time." He, too, declined to be identified.

In Kandahar, population about 500,000, and other towns, dance parties are a popular, often weekly, pastime. Young boys dress up as girls, wearing makeup and bells on their feet, and dance for a dozen or more leering middle-aged men who throw money at them and then take them home. A recent State Department report called "dancing boys" a "widespread, culturally sanctioned form of male rape."

So, why are American and NATO forces fighting and dying to defend tens of thousands of proud pedophiles, certainly more per capita than any other place on Earth? And how did Afghanistan become the pedophilia capital of Asia?

Sociologists and anthropologists say the problem results from perverse interpretation of Islamic law. Women are simply unapproachable. Afghan men cannot talk to an unrelated woman until after proposing marriage. Before then, they can't even look at a woman, except perhaps her feet. Otherwise she is covered, head to ankle.

"How can you fall in love if you can't see her face," 29-year-old Mohammed Daud told reporters. "We can see the boys, so we can tell which are beautiful."

Even after marriage, many men keep their boys, suggesting a loveless life at home. A favored Afghan expression goes: "Women are for children, boys are for pleasure." Fundamentalist imams, exaggerating a biblical passage on menstruation, teach that women are "unclean" and therefore distasteful. One married man even asked Cardinalli's team "how his wife could become pregnant," her report said. When that was explained, he "reacted with disgust" and asked, "How could one feel desire to be with a woman, who God has made unclean?"

That helps explain why women are hidden away - and stoned to death if they are perceived to have misbehaved. Islamic law also forbids homosexuality. But the pedophiles explain that away. It's not homosexuality, they aver, because they aren't in love with their boys.

Addressing the loathsome mistreatment of Afghan women remains a primary goal for coalition governments, as it should be.

But what about the boys, thousands upon thousands of little boys who are victims of serial rape over many years, destroying their lives - and Afghan society.

"There's no issue more horrifying and more deserving of our attention than this," Cardinalli said. "I'm continually haunted by what I saw."

As one boy, in tow of a man he called "my lord," told the Reuters reporter: "Once I grow up, I will be an owner, and I will have my own boys."

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... z181F9Ium1

[deadly_habit]

actually kinda saw/heard bout similar shit during my tour in iraq... different culture, but i don't even know how to comment about it

[crackf]

New leak, sickening stuff

yesss that is, anyone sure its definatly legit? cause it reeks of /b/ making up a story

It's very well documented in Pashtun tribal culture that this happens - the Taliban were the only group to come along in hundreds of years who could apparently put any kind of halt to the practice.

no i understand that

[AllNightDayDream]

My gripe is that our tax dollars are funding that kind of shit.

[deadly_habit]

My gripe is that our tax dollars are funding that kind of shit.

there's a lot more public programs that get overlooked that fund shit you should be concerned about
this is one of those well fuck damned either way situations, unwillingly funding

[knell]

http://www.jeuxjeuxjeux.fr/jeu/ne+te+fa ... leaks.html

[collige]

http://blogs.forbes.com/andygreenberg/2 ... will-work/

I approve of this.

[deadly_habit]

the fuckers are just renaming and reintroducing usenet from the looks of it

[AllNightDayDream]

My gripe is that our tax dollars are funding that kind of shit.

there's a lot more public programs that get overlooked that fund shit you should be concerned about
this is one of those well fuck damned either way situations, unwillingly funding

I'm well aware. There's really not much anyone can do to substantially change any of this.

[cosmic_surgeon]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-wol ... 95899.html

Apologies if this is a repost.