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Music Production at University

Post by dddemain » Sun Dec 12, 2010 10:25 am

Ok, so I am thinking of applying to these Uni's to study production.

University of East London
Glamorgan
London South Bank
UWE
Plymouth

Has anyone had any experience with any of these?
Literally anything would be a great help as I have left it rather late...
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Re: Music Production at University

Post by Promise One » Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:05 pm

University of East London doesn't have a good rep from what I've heard from teachers in the school I work in. Although I'm pretty sure Kode 9 works there as a music lecturer.

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Re: Music Production at University

Post by Wrigzilla » Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:10 pm

Don't know anything about them man; I can only tell you about Bath Spa, De Montford, Hertfordshire, Coventry or Anglia Ruskin and even then only anything really meaningful about bath spa.

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Re: Music Production at University

Post by dddemain » Sun Dec 12, 2010 7:41 pm

Promise One wrote:University of East London doesn't have a good rep from what I've heard from teachers in the school I work in. Although I'm pretty sure Kode 9 works there as a music lecturer.
Yeah I thought this as well, one of the modules is entitled "soundscapes" which sounds very Kode 9 to me...
Wrigzilla wrote:Don't know anything about them man; I can only tell you about Bath Spa, De Montford, Hertfordshire, Coventry or Anglia Ruskin and even then only anything really meaningful about bath spa.
I'm sortof still deciding where to apply, so yeah any information would be great. I don't have ABRSM qualifications or anything though so I think that means Hertfordshire and possibly De Montford is out.
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Re: Music Production at University

Post by Wrigzilla » Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:08 pm

What do you want to do after the course? Think about it and then look critically at the syllabuses at the prospective uni's, which one suits what you want to get out of the course. Music technology is one of the broadest course titles out there ranging from BSC to BA and even then just cos you're doing a BA doesn't mean you're not going to have to do some sciencey stuff.

Another thing I'd like to say is that if you want to do a Production degree only to get good enough at production towards making it as an artist, think again. I'm doing creative music tech at Bath Spa and our course covers everything from recording, sound design for film/tv, synthesis, DSP to multimedia. I'd go for a broad course that gives you as many different options for making a living after the course as opposed to just gambling on making it as a producer.

Anyways best of luck :4:

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Re: Music Production at University

Post by JemGrover » Sun Dec 12, 2010 8:34 pm

Wrigzilla wrote:Don't know anything about them man; I can only tell you about Bath Spa, De Montford, Hertfordshire, Coventry or Anglia Ruskin and even then only anything really meaningful about bath spa.
heh, What's your opinion of Anglia Ruskin?
Doing a foundation year there right now, and doing Audio & Music technology next year (not 100% sure it'll be at ARU, but I know people who graduated from there who've done pretty well for themselves)

And OP, it's seriously worth thinking about how much a Music Production Degree will be worth to you. I'm pretty clueless when it comes to what courses in this field are on offer, but I was advised by several guys now (including a lecturer at ARU) that it's worth going for something that will open you up to a broader field of work- Think there was a 'creative music' course but it didn't teach you much of the technical aspect behind it
whereas Audio & Music Tech gives you greater scope when you graduate and look for work (eg, people ended up getting jobs working in sound for the BBC, etc...)

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Re: Music Production at University

Post by Wrigzilla » Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:13 pm

Anglia Ruskin seemed good (I remember on the open day one of the lecturers Julio seemed pretty cool, he'd rigged up some MAX patch so that when you messed about with a games controller you "played piano"), but what put me off it was the lack of a proper recording studio (that was a little less than 3 years ago and he said that they were planning to get something proper done).

Although it would have been cool to say to people "yeah I study music tech at cambridge" (being careful to leave out, at anglia ruskin, not THE cambridge).

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Re: Music Production at University

Post by JemGrover » Sun Dec 12, 2010 9:56 pm

Wrigzilla wrote:Anglia Ruskin seemed good (I remember on the open day one of the lecturers Julio seemed pretty cool, he'd rigged up some MAX patch so that when you messed about with a games controller you "played piano"), but what put me off it was the lack of a proper recording studio (that was a little less than 3 years ago and he said that they were planning to get something proper done).

Although it would have been cool to say to people "yeah I study music tech at cambridge" (being careful to leave out, at anglia ruskin, not THE cambridge).
Haha, yup, I think everyone at ARU likes to refer to it as "Being at Cambridge" :lol:
Studios been refurbished now to, but not had an opportunity to use it at all so roll on September!

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Re: Music Production at University

Post by dddemain » Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:16 pm

Wrigzilla wrote:What do you want to do after the course? Think about it and then look critically at the syllabuses at the prospective uni's, which one suits what you want to get out of the course. Music technology is one of the broadest course titles out there ranging from BSC to BA and even then just cos you're doing a BA doesn't mean you're not going to have to do some sciencey stuff.

Another thing I'd like to say is that if you want to do a Production degree only to get good enough at production towards making it as an artist, think again. I'm doing creative music tech at Bath Spa and our course covers everything from recording, sound design for film/tv, synthesis, DSP to multimedia. I'd go for a broad course that gives you as many different options for making a living after the course as opposed to just gambling on making it as a producer.

Anyways best of luck :4:
Thanks for the advice, I will definitely be going for the most practical course I can find as I would ideally like to get into recording and commercial production when I get out. So would you recommend Bath SPA as a choice now that your there or have you had problems? Also how many lecture/seminar hours do you get a week?
Thanks again

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Re: Music Production at University

Post by Depone » Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:39 pm

Thames valley uni here in west london. Really professional course with amazing studio/equiptment. Lectirers are industry leaders. Highly recommend it

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Re: Music Production at University

Post by samkablaam » Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:51 pm

Wrigzilla wrote:What do you want to do after the course? Think about it and then look critically at the syllabuses at the prospective uni's, which one suits what you want to get out of the course. Music technology is one of the broadest course titles out there ranging from BSC to BA and even then just cos you're doing a BA doesn't mean you're not going to have to do some sciencey stuff.

Another thing I'd like to say is that if you want to do a Production degree only to get good enough at production towards making it as an artist, think again. I'm doing creative music tech at Bath Spa and our course covers everything from recording, sound design for film/tv, synthesis, DSP to multimedia. I'd go for a broad course that gives you as many different options for making a living after the course as opposed to just gambling on making it as a producer.

Anyways best of luck :4:
yeah, agree with this. granted you will prob learn stuff on a production course. but employability and stuff is gonna be pretty low off one of these courses if you dont make it as a producer.
im doin tonmeister course at uni surrey and cant recommend it enough. recording, engineering, composition, synthesis, acoustics bla bla. you need music physics and maths, but if you dont have them, u can sit a test on the interview day.
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Re: Music Production at University

Post by gravity » Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:29 pm

Depone wrote:Thames valley uni here in west london. Really professional course with amazing studio/equiptment. Lectirers are industry leaders. Highly recommend it
really? what year are you in?

i did tech there - the studios were fantastic and a couple of the tutors were great, but there was so much irrelevant shit in there imo.

i also found uni for music tech really uncreative and over analytical - it stripped most of the fun out of it.

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Re: Music Production at University

Post by Depone » Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:45 pm

gravity wrote:
Depone wrote:Thames valley uni here in west london. Really professional course with amazing studio/equiptment. Lectirers are industry leaders. Highly recommend it
really? what year are you in?

i did tech there - the studios were fantastic and a couple of the tutors were great, but there was so much irrelevant shit in there imo.

i also found uni for music tech really uncreative and over analytical - it stripped most of the fun out of it.
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Yeah you gotta learn extra stuff you might or might not wanna learn. Its not a training course like SAE, but i loved all of it. (second year btw)

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Re: Music Production at University

Post by gravity » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:33 pm

Depone wrote:
gravity wrote:
Depone wrote:Thames valley uni here in west london. Really professional course with amazing studio/equiptment. Lectirers are industry leaders. Highly recommend it
really? what year are you in?

i did tech there - the studios were fantastic and a couple of the tutors were great, but there was so much irrelevant shit in there imo.

i also found uni for music tech really uncreative and over analytical - it stripped most of the fun out of it.
Tec Specialist.

Pip williams and Paul Borge FTW.

Yeah you gotta learn extra stuff you might or might not wanna learn. Its not a training course like SAE, but i loved all of it. (second year btw)
yeah pip and paul were wicked, also justin if hes still there. pip in particular is shockingly sound!

it was about 2 thirds through the second year when i got fed up of it tbh, i think it was the whole group work thing - i always seemed to end up in a really shit group where noone other than me did any fucking work. got pretty disillusioned by that.

im trying to think of the name of the biggest pain in the ass tutor... very clever bloke but such an arrogant prick it was difficult to pick up much off him... paul ramshaw thats it! pretentious wanker he was!

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Re: Music Production at University

Post by Depone » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:41 pm

gravity wrote:
Depone wrote:
gravity wrote:
Depone wrote:Thames valley uni here in west london. Really professional course with amazing studio/equiptment. Lectirers are industry leaders. Highly recommend it
really? what year are you in?

i did tech there - the studios were fantastic and a couple of the tutors were great, but there was so much irrelevant shit in there imo.

i also found uni for music tech really uncreative and over analytical - it stripped most of the fun out of it.
Tec Specialist.

Pip williams and Paul Borge FTW.

Yeah you gotta learn extra stuff you might or might not wanna learn. Its not a training course like SAE, but i loved all of it. (second year btw)
yeah pip and paul were wicked, also justin if hes still there. pip in particular is shockingly sound!

it was about 2 thirds through the second year when i got fed up of it tbh, i think it was the whole group work thing - i always seemed to end up in a really shit group where noone other than me did any fucking work. got pretty disillusioned by that.

im trying to think of the name of the biggest pain in the ass tutor... very clever bloke but such an arrogant prick it was difficult to pick up much off him... paul ramshaw thats it! pretentious wanker he was!
Haha did you see Paul Agnostino with his Mbox soul platform shoes? haha hes was cool too.

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Re: Music Production at University

Post by Depone » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:47 pm

gravity wrote:
Depone wrote:
gravity wrote:
Depone wrote:Thames valley uni here in west london. Really professional course with amazing studio/equiptment. Lectirers are industry leaders. Highly recommend it
really? what year are you in?

i did tech there - the studios were fantastic and a couple of the tutors were great, but there was so much irrelevant shit in there imo.

i also found uni for music tech really uncreative and over analytical - it stripped most of the fun out of it.
Tec Specialist.

Pip williams and Paul Borge FTW.

Yeah you gotta learn extra stuff you might or might not wanna learn. Its not a training course like SAE, but i loved all of it. (second year btw)
yeah pip and paul were wicked, also justin if hes still there. pip in particular is shockingly sound!

it was about 2 thirds through the second year when i got fed up of it tbh, i think it was the whole group work thing - i always seemed to end up in a really shit group where noone other than me did any fucking work. got pretty disillusioned by that.

im trying to think of the name of the biggest pain in the ass tutor... very clever bloke but such an arrogant prick it was difficult to pick up much off him... paul ramshaw thats it! pretentious wanker he was!
Yeah didnt like ramshaw either

Haha did you see Paul Agnostino with his Mbox soul platform shoes? haha hes was cool too.

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Re: Music Production at University

Post by back2onett » Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:22 pm

UWE has a bad rep for not not giving a fuck about students. I'd say look for a BSc/BEng if you want a worthwhile course but then again it really depends on what you want to do post-grad, are you looking more at the technical side or the creative side?

Glamorgan is pretty good btw but the studio time outside of lessons is limited.
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Re: Music Production at University

Post by skimpi » Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:43 pm

Depone wrote:
gravity wrote:
Depone wrote:Thames valley uni here in west london. Really professional course with amazing studio/equiptment. Lectirers are industry leaders. Highly recommend it
really? what year are you in?

i did tech there - the studios were fantastic and a couple of the tutors were great, but there was so much irrelevant shit in there imo.

i also found uni for music tech really uncreative and over analytical - it stripped most of the fun out of it.
Tec Specialist.

Pip williams and Paul Borge FTW.

Yeah you gotta learn extra stuff you might or might not wanna learn. Its not a training course like SAE, but i loved all of it. (second year btw)
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Re: Music Production at University

Post by eraze » Tue Dec 14, 2010 5:57 am

I wasn't really feeling BA Music Production, but that's just me

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