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What is the preferred method...

Post by poisonarms » Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:45 pm

...for professional producers? Do they create their bass in a DAW like the amateurs or do they use straight hardware with no computer?

If the latter, what does a professional set up usually include?

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Re: What is the preferred method...

Post by 3za » Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:52 pm

poisonarms wrote:...for professional producers? Do they create their bass in a DAW like the amateurs or do they use straight hardware with no computer?

If the latter, what does a professional set up usually include?
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I don't know who you are referring, but if your on about dubstep artist which you most likly are, then I would say most but not all use mostly software.

If you on about a professional production studio setup, that is a whole different kettle of fish.
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Re: What is the preferred method...

Post by deadly_habit » Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:52 pm

you must have a rupert neve mixing console, moog modular and a hardware midi sequencer
also racks of expensive equipment with lots of leds and and vu meters

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Re: What is the preferred method...

Post by 3za » Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:56 pm

deadly habit wrote:you must have a rupert neve mixing console, moog modular and a hardware midi sequencer
also racks of expensive equipment with lots of leds and and vu meters
You forgot the buchla modular, for some west coast Vs east coast action.
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Re: What is the preferred method...

Post by Basic A » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:04 pm

Dubstep, is, digital. And your favorite 'professional' producers within the genre, are, more then likely, average joes who have day jobs outside of this man, dont put em on a pedestal, its unhealthy.

Outside of dubstep, in the realms of commercial hiphop, and in really traditional edm scenes like techno, electro, house... youll start to see alot more, but a BIG part of the hardware thing is fading out fast in EDM and pop in general, because, frankly, digital is easier, cheaper, and can do it (technically) just as good.

Some die hards out there dude, and mad respect to em. But for the biggest portion of the music scene in general, Jackal n Hyde about as far back as youll see much hardware.

Im not saying noone does, Im just saying, its not what amkes you 'professional' at all.
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Post by DJ Crackle » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:15 pm

deadly habit wrote:you must have a rupert neve mixing console, moog modular and a hardware midi sequencer
also racks of expensive equipment with lots of leds and and vu meters
the real key to datsicsion's hugesound.

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Re: What is the preferred method...

Post by alphacat » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:24 pm

3za wrote:
deadly habit wrote:you must have a rupert neve mixing console, moog modular and a hardware midi sequencer
also racks of expensive equipment with lots of leds and and vu meters
You forgot the buchla modular, for some west coast Vs east coast action.
You also forgot patchbays that look like Tetsuo's swollen fuckin' mutant arm.

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Re: What is the preferred method...

Post by poisonarms » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:31 pm

Basic A wrote:Dubstep, is, digital. And your favorite 'professional' producers within the genre, are, more then likely, average joes who have day jobs outside of this man, dont put em on a pedestal, its unhealthy.

Outside of dubstep, in the realms of commercial hiphop, and in really traditional edm scenes like techno, electro, house... youll start to see alot more, but a BIG part of the hardware thing is fading out fast in EDM and pop in general, because, frankly, digital is easier, cheaper, and can do it (technically) just as good.

Some die hards out there dude, and mad respect to em. But for the biggest portion of the music scene in general, Jackal n Hyde about as far back as youll see much hardware.

Im not saying noone does, Im just saying, its not what amkes you 'professional' at all.
I didn't exactly say that using hardware as opposed to a computer MAKES you professional. And by "professional" I mean, the big names of dubstep, that's all. I don't even know any big names outside of Skream and 16bit, I just discovered this genre. Not putting them on a pedestal at all, really. Just asking.

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Re: What is the preferred method...

Post by deadly_habit » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:34 pm

alphacat wrote:
3za wrote:
deadly habit wrote:you must have a rupert neve mixing console, moog modular and a hardware midi sequencer
also racks of expensive equipment with lots of leds and and vu meters
You forgot the buchla modular, for some west coast Vs east coast action.
You also forgot patchbays that look like Tetsuo's swollen fuckin' mutant arm.
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Post by DJ Crackle » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:39 pm

Basic A wrote:And your favorite 'professional' producers within the genre, are, more then likely, average joes who have day jobs outside of this man
This always makes me sad.

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Re: What is the preferred method...

Post by Basic A » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:41 pm

Too fuckin much deadly, lmfao!

And what makes you sad man? Your up there, cant quote you cause Im already in here replying lol.
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Re: What is the preferred method...

Post by alphacat » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:44 pm

Deadly, I'm dying over here. My co-workers think I've finally lost it.

I'm so keeping that picture though.
poisonarms wrote:I didn't exactly say that using hardware as opposed to a computer MAKES you professional. And by "professional" I mean, the big names of dubstep, that's all. I don't even know any big names outside of Skream and 16bit, I just discovered this genre. Not putting them on a pedestal at all, really. Just asking.
Fair enough.

It's pretty safe to say this: while there are absolutely hardware-using producers out there, dubstep was arguably the first form of dance music whose production was implicitly linked to certain kinds of software from the get-go (such as FL) and software composition techniques instead of previous styles which still had a lot of hardware ties (808s, MPCs, ASRx, etc.)

Or rather: it's not likely that anyone would associate any specific hardware sound with dubstep, unlike other genres - but it is likely that they'd associate say the sound of the Fruity 3xOsc synth with dubstep. That's just a rough example though.

Finally, there is not wrong or right method... only the method that works best for you. My buddy that I jam with is a hardware guy through and through, while I'm the plugin whore. We compliment each other very well when things are clicking, and I don't think a purist approach is the right way either. Software people need to learn to take it outside the box once in a while and hardware people need to realize that software only expands possibilities when combined with their interfaces.

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Re: What is the preferred method...

Post by symmetricalsounds » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:53 pm

this or you may aswell give up now

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Re: What is the preferred method...

Post by Pedro Sánchez » Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:00 pm

symmetricalsounds wrote:this or you may aswell give up now

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Re: What is the preferred method...

Post by wub » Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:05 pm

Having the best gear in the world don't mean shit. The first house tracks were made using gear not even designed for purpose.

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Re: What is the preferred method...

Post by symmetricalsounds » Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:05 pm

Pedro Sánchez wrote:
symmetricalsounds wrote:this or you may aswell give up now

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all about the lamps.
they're not lamps, they're strategically placed acoustic devices.

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Re: What is the preferred method...

Post by shoot2stun » Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:09 pm

symmetricalsounds wrote:
Pedro Sánchez wrote:
symmetricalsounds wrote:this or you may aswell give up now

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all about the lamps.
they're not lamps, they're strategically placed acoustic devices.

I don't see a way into that room...you must have to drop in from the ceiling.

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Re: What is the preferred method...

Post by paravrais » Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:13 pm

Basic A wrote:Dubstep, is, digital. And your favorite 'professional' producers within the genre, are, more then likely, average joes who have day jobs outside of this man
Whilst this *is* true you also gotta admit that skream/magnetic man are raking it in right now and most of the really big names make a comfortable enough wage to live off. Albeit mostly from DJ'ing not producing but whatever, it's the productions that get them the DJ gigs so...

Not that there's a lot of money in EDM, just sayin a lot of people do make a decent living off it without having to work as a lawyer during the day or whatever..

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Re: What is the preferred method...

Post by symmetricalsounds » Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:14 pm

shoot2stun wrote:
symmetricalsounds wrote:
Pedro Sánchez wrote:
symmetricalsounds wrote:this or you may aswell give up now

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all about the lamps.
they're not lamps, they're strategically placed acoustic devices.

I don't see a way into that room...you must have to drop in from the ceiling.
once you're in.....you never get out.

guessing there's a fair bit of space on bottom right hand corner but because that bit of console is quite high it looks like there isn't.

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