WikiLeaks

[the acid never lies]

laaaame

[j_one]

Documentary if anyone's interested:
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/wikirebels/

[badger]

FANTASTIC

as i have already said i'm not interested in debating how good a site the examiner is
more so the points raised in the article about the ex fbi agent

so you aren't interested in the credibility of a source when discussing its content? FANTASTIC

this is the reason that things like wikileaks are important. there's such a lack of quality journalism and/or any valuation of stories done by the readers that most media serves very little useful role these days. mainstream media often parrots much the same story as every other paper/website with very little critical editing or analysis, and alternative sources often spoonfeed information to people that are happy to swallow whatever shit is given to them as long as it fits into their own personal prejudices

Documentary if anyone's interested:
http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/wikirebels/

cheers will watch that later

[hackman]

FANTASTIC

as i have already said i'm not interested in debating how good a site the examiner is
more so the points raised in the article about the ex fbi agent

so you aren't interested in the credibility of a source when discussing its content? FANTASTIC

lol since when were YOU ever discussing the content?
i'm not interested in discussing credibility when none of you are addressing the content, but as i've said the link has ben removed so that's impossible

so do you want to just drop it?

[Sirius]

If i can't trust the words of the serving FBI....
why would I trust the words of an ex FBI agent?

It might be an interesting read... if you can find the source of where he said what he did!!

The chick who wrote the link you supplied is too much of a leftist propaganda writer!

believe nothing... question everything...
ya know how we roll!!

!!chea

[badger]

i'm not interested in discussing credibility when none of you are addressing the content, but as i've said the link has ben removed so that's impossible

so do you want to just drop it?

i did read it whilst it was up actually and it was interesting but nothing new. everyone knows the FBI are dodgy, or have a dodgy element even if the vast majority are decent people. i'm not sure if it was in the article itself or in one linked from it but one person was advocating actual tin foil hats to protect against FBI energy weapons which was one of the things that made me make that comment

what's your problem with moving on from that article and discussing things that relate to wikileaks in a wikileaks thread?. if this thread was solely about that FBI story then fair enough but considering the amount of times i've seen unrelated threads get diverted it's a bit rich to complain about it

[Sirius]

here.. i found a working link..

http://www.examiner.com/human-rights-in ... leaks-fans

!!chea

[hackman]

what's your problem with moving on from that article and discussing things that relate to wikileaks in a wikileaks thread?.

nothing you twazzock, that's why i said drop it loooool

[j_one]

I read both articles... the second one basically says that if Julian Assange was for real, he'd have been assassinated already. If that's the case, why hasn't this ex-FBI agent been assassinated? Instead they just aim their "Directed Energy technology" at him to ruin his day? Sounds like the ramblings of a paranoid man (which I'm sure you would be if you were an ex-FBI whistleblower). Not convinced, interesting read though.

[Sirius]

This is from the UN...

UN Special Rapporteur on the Promotion and Protection
the Right to Freedom of Opinion and Expression

Inter-American Commission on Human Rights
Special Rapporteur for Freedom of Expression

Joint Statement On Wikileaks


December 21, 2010 – In light of ongoing developments related to the release of diplomatic cables by the organization Wikileaks, and the publication of information contained in those cables by mainstream news organizations, the United Nations (UN) Special Rapporteur on Freedom of Opinion and Expression and the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights (IACHR) Special Rapporteur for Freedom of Expression see fit to recall a number of international legal principles. The rapporteurs call upon States and other relevant actors to keep these principles in mind when responding to the aforementioned developments.

1. The right to access information held by public authorities is a fundamental human right subject to a strict regime of exceptions. The right to access to information protects the right of every person to access public information and to know what governments are doing on their behalf. It is a right that has received particular attention from the international community, given its importance to the consolidation, functioning and preservation of democratic regimes. Without the protection of this right, it is impossible for citizens to know the truth, demand accountability and fully exercise their right to political participation. National authorities should take active steps to ensure the principle of maximum transparency, address the culture of secrecy that still prevails in many countries and increase the amount of information subject to routine disclosure.

2. At the same time, the right of access to information should be subject to a narrowly tailored system of exceptions to protect overriding public and private interests such as national security and the rights and security of other persons. Secrecy laws should define national security precisely and indicate clearly the criteria which should be used in determining whether or not information can be declared secret. Exceptions to access to information on national security or other grounds should apply only where there is a risk of substantial harm to the protected interest and where that harm is greater than the overall public interest in having access to the information. In accordance with international standards, information regarding human rights violations should not be considered secret or classified.

3. Public authorities and their staff bear sole responsibility for protecting the confidentiality of legitimately classified information under their control. Other individuals, including journalists, media workers and civil society representatives, who receive and disseminate classified information because they believe it is in the public interest, should not be subject to liability unless they committed fraud or another crime to obtain the information. In addition, government "whistleblowers" releasing information on violations of the law, on wrongdoing by public bodies, on a serious threat to health, safety or the environment, or on a breach of human rights or humanitarian law should be protected against legal, administrative or employment-related sanctions if they act in good faith. Any attempt to impose subsequent liability on those who disseminate classified information should be grounded in previously established laws enforced by impartial and independent legal systems with full respect for due process guarantees, including the right to appeal.

4. Direct or indirect government interference in or pressure exerted upon any expression or information transmitted through any means of oral, written, artistic, visual or electronic communication must be prohibited by law when it is aimed at influencing content. Such illegitimate interference includes politically motivated legal cases brought against journalists and independent media, and blocking of websites and web domains on political grounds. Calls by public officials for illegitimate retributive action are not acceptable.

5. Filtering systems which are not end-user controlled – whether imposed by a government or commercial service provider – are a form of prior censorship and cannot be justified. Corporations that provide Internet services should make an effort to ensure that they respect the rights of their clients to use the Internet without arbitrary interference.

6. Self-regulatory mechanisms for journalists have played an important role in fostering greater awareness about how to report on and address difficult and controversial subjects. Special journalistic responsibility is called for when reporting information from confidential sources that may affect valuable interests such as fundamental rights or the security of other persons. Ethical codes for journalists should therefore provide for an evaluation of the public interest in obtaining such information. Such codes can also provide useful guidance for new forms of communication and for new media organizations, which should likewise voluntarily adopt ethical best practices to ensure that the information made available is accurate, fairly presented and does not cause substantial harm to legally protected interests such as human rights.

http://www.cidh.oas.org/relatoria/showa ... =829&lID=1

!!chea

[Sirius]

heres an interview from today..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MBJOBl1G3Kc
Cenks the man!

!!chea

[AllNightDayDream]

oh fuck yes TYT army TOO STRONG!

[wormcode]

A NORWEGIAN newspaper has gotten hold of the entire file of US cables first leaked to WikiLeaks. It contains more than 250 ,000 secret US embassy cables. Norway's main business newspaper Dagens Naerings reported that Oslo-based Aftenposten became the only media organisation in the world to gain direct access to all the documents. It allows them to dodge WikiLeaks' current strategy of drip-feeding the cables to preferred partners The New York Times, The Guardian, Der Spiegel and El Pais. WikiLeaks has so far chosen to publish fewer than two thousand of the 251 ,287 cables. But its tight control on the release of further documents has been undermined by the Norwegian leak. Aftenposten news editor Ole Erik Almlid told Dagens Naerings: "We're free to do what we want with these documents … We're free to publish the documents or not publish the documents, we can publish on the internet or on paper. We are handling these documents just like all other journalistic material to which we have gained access." Around 20 Aftenposten journalists are sifting through the file dump. The news articles are written in Norwegian, which may restrict their immediate impact in the English-speaking media world .. for a time at least. Almlid said he had given little thought to the way the news of the second leak, and the resulting stories would be greeted by the US authorities.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/ipad-applic ... 5975253650

[64hz]

wikileaks got leaked LOL

[AllNightDayDream]

chat ▄▄█▀▀ █▬█ █ ▀█▀ get leaked

[clifford_-]

chat ▄▄█▀▀ █▬█ █ ▀█▀ get leaked

[64hz]

i find it silly how wikileaks are all for transparency, yet only drip release the files?
thats a form of censorship in itself and shows they have an agenda. . .

[Pedro Sánchez]

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[deadly_habit]

wikileaks got leaked LOL

or someone is trying to call their bluff and get them to leak it all at once

[kay]

That's the problem with dripfeeding it. If I can think of it then someone else has already realised that you could release ANYTHING and claim it was from the Wikileaks file.