K Koke signed by Jay-z

[nicenice]

UK is better at hip hop then US.

I agree with most comparisons that disparage the US, but I don't agree with this.

Has the UK produced anyone like Big L?

Chuck D said it himself.

Naw just adding some contention to the topic. Seems like people took it a bit too seriously.
UK ain't got shit on Mobb Deep.

[BaronVon]

I did read what you wrote and if its not busineess dictating your rules who is?

lol I'm not saying you can't enjoy or attempt to understand but by default you're not gonna get off on a tune about the southside if you're from the northside.

Just like I'm not gonna get off about hearing about rollin on 16's in your daewoo or whatever the fuck europeans drive these days. I could insist that I enjoy that, or insist that I understand the appeal of riding in a daewoo pickin up some curry and all that but it would be fraudulent and forced.


My original point was people listen to that which they can relate to. The reason people don't dig southern rap is the same reason I generally don't dig west coast or east coast or foreign rap. Comparing widely instrumental genres is lame. The instrumental is a completely different thing than vocal as dialogue is completely different than visual.

Seriously i've been listening to Southern Hip Hop since 1990. Whereas i could probably name about 3 artists from the UK scene who i like. I don't think i need to have been anywhere near the southern US to appreciate the music. Like you said it's not really about the lyrics.
I mean my favourite artist of all time is Fela Kuti and i wouldn't have the first clue what it's like to live in Nigeria under brutal oppression or see my whole family murdered in front of me. This doesn't stop me from having a deep feeling for his music.
I would be living quite the lie if i'd lived this "fraudulent and forced" existence for the last 21 years.

[Badman Juice]

production standards and poor mix downs are the main thing holding the new wave of uk rap back right now. as well as a lack of financial backing and industry/police blocking.

[nicenice]

and because its shit

[DRTY]

and because its shit

[flyingointment]

Chuck D said it himself.

Naw just adding some contention to the topic. Seems like people took it a bit too seriously.
UK ain't got shit on Mobb Deep.

Aaaah ok, yeah, I thought you were being serious. haha

Anyway, the US might be better at straight up hip-hop but y'all have grime on lock fa rea.



I don't think I'll ever get over how badass this is.

[hubb]

I can only read books that were made from paper that was extracted from indigenous trees, grown within a 20 miles radius and I know for a fact others have no interest either..

[Badman Juice]

and because its shit

la la la

[sirsnaf]

i dont get the current fascination with poor rhymers rappers about nowt in particular... the whole grime thing of spitting a line quickly and emphasising the last word, split second pause, then spit another line quickly emphasisng the last word (which does or doesn't need to rhyme with the previously emphasised word)

i agree hiphop isnt about intricate wordplay, but flow is important, and to this extent the words and lines need to logically slot together, and rhyming and wordplay are important to this.

anyway. i guess jayz is after the commercial success, not satisfying the underground/purists/backpacker/whatever .... but, im going to take this opportunity to plug current UK rappers worth a peep....

Verbal Contact from Leeds..


Cappo, from Nottingham (his Spaz the World LP is a classic)


another cappo track, of the aforementioned album, from 2004 i think?


Fliptrix - london innit. one of the best of the newer generation...


Rhyme Asylum - been around a few years now, not sure if theyve done owt recently, this is a couple of years old, still dope tho..


Lowkey - not his best track, and hes been lost in doing quasi political stuff, but he still has a way with words..


No Pretense - darker hiphop, if you like cage and gravediggaz... (word is, cage is such a fan of them tat he came out of retirement to do this track, high praise indeed!)

^^ if anyones into the new future garagey house stuff, this track is produced by Eliphino, as is the whole No Pretense album, from when eliphino made hiphop


pow

[AllNightDayDream]

Needs moar dirty souf

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fuckz wittit

[Badman Juice]

[pkay]

i dont get the current fascination with poor rhymers rappers about nowt in particular... the whole grime thing of spitting a line quickly and emphasising the last word, split second pause, then spit another line quickly emphasisng the last word (which does or doesn't need to rhyme with the previously emphasised word)

yeah we call that punchline rapping

setup setup setup emphasis setup setup setup emphasis

I can't get into that at all. Regardless of what the person is saying when you follow a formula as basic as that it gets old fast.


It's good to hear a european who is big on flow. Most europeans choose lyrics over flow. These days when there's a million and one rappers a unique flow goes miles

[capo ultra]

I don't like anything with lyrical content thanks

[pkay]

not sayin that

but if you dont have flow you all sound like this

[capo ultra]

not sayin that

but if you dont have flow you all sound like this

oh yea sorry wasn't actually replying to you, just general comment. I do however, fully endorse flow. Most important

[deesee]

is there anyone better?

[Badman Juice]

is there anyone better?

[Badman Juice]

been arrested for shooting someone hope those sony lawyers earn their money

[Skang]

oops double post

[Skang]

TUNE!