Splitting frequencies in logic

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Mannyyyyy
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Splitting frequencies in logic

Post by Mannyyyyy » Fri Dec 31, 2010 8:54 pm

the title says it all. how can i do this in logic. i just got logic fro christmas and im getting somewhat of it but i have no clue how you would go about splitting things at all. can someone point me to the right direction please :D

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Re: Splitting frequencies in logic

Post by filthy_ » Fri Dec 31, 2010 9:26 pm

try using multiband compression
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Re: Splitting frequencies in logic

Post by Trebek » Fri Dec 31, 2010 9:33 pm

Just use an EQ. And just high pass, low pass, then make a spot in the middle. Then you will have your lows, mids, an highs.

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Re: Splitting frequencies in logic

Post by Mannyyyyy » Fri Dec 31, 2010 9:34 pm

filthy_ wrote:try using multiband compression
just put the multiband compression on the channel strip?

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Re: Splitting frequencies in logic

Post by Mannyyyyy » Fri Dec 31, 2010 10:26 pm

also i hear people saying how they use like different channels to control parameters for bass how would you do that and im using massive just in case you need to know

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Re: Splitting frequencies in logic

Post by Wrigzilla » Fri Dec 31, 2010 10:44 pm

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Then add effects to different channels to taste.

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Re: Splitting frequencies in logic

Post by Mannyyyyy » Fri Dec 31, 2010 10:46 pm

true that cleared it up perfectly thanks dude

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Re: Splitting frequencies in logic

Post by Mannyyyyy » Fri Dec 31, 2010 10:50 pm

also quick question im i supposed to make the main channel not have any outputs ?

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Re: Splitting frequencies in logic

Post by DJ Crackle » Fri Dec 31, 2010 11:16 pm

Mannyyyyy wrote:also quick question im i supposed to make the main channel not have any outputs ?
never touched logic and i can't see the pic that was posted so i'm kinda in the dark here lol
but i'm going to go ahead and say yes

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Re: Splitting frequencies in logic

Post by chewie » Sat Jan 01, 2011 1:28 am

Much easier using the multiband compressor.

Set this up by sending your sound to 3 separate bus tracks name them low/mid/hi (option click on the send's circle to set it auto to 0db)
Also turn the output of the track your using to off/no output.
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Now add a multipressor to the first bus.
turn off band 4 you only need 1,2 +3
set up the low band to be at 100 hz
mid band up to 3.1khz
high band is 3.1 khz and up
Also raise the compressor threshold for each band to 10db so there's no compression.
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Now copy the multiband to the next two channels - you do this by holding down command and option when you drag it over, creating a copy.
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Go into each multipressor and click the yellow solo button for the specific band . Here's what the low multipressor will look like with band 1 solo'd
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Mid solo 2 , high solo 3
Then save each bus as a channel strip so you don't have to go through all that again and within a few clicks you've got it all sorted next time your doing a tune.

I'd stay away from the linear phase eq btw it creates too much latency.

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Re: Splitting frequencies in logic

Post by darkdubz » Sat Jan 01, 2011 2:10 am

good post chewie, i was doing some thing similar but much more tricky.

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Re: Splitting frequencies in logic

Post by Mannyyyyy » Sat Jan 01, 2011 2:20 am

amazing post thank you so much this helped a whole lot

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Re: Splitting frequencies in logic

Post by Mannyyyyy » Sat Jan 01, 2011 2:41 am

also now the i put multipressor in i can now eq the hi mid and lo's the way i need to and add effects to my taste correct?

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Re: Splitting frequencies in logic

Post by chewie » Sat Jan 01, 2011 2:53 am

Mannyyyyy wrote:also now the i put multipressor in i can now eq the hi mid and lo's the way i need to and add effects to my taste correct?
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Typically i would make the low band mono there's a few ways to do this but easiest is probably sticking a gain effect onto the low channel and clicking the mono button in it.
Add different types of distortion onto the mid and hi and eq any nasty frequencies you've created with the distortion. Only subtle amounts though and look at getting sound toys decapitator or camel audio's camel phat for some tasty distortion. For the mid band i'd cut out a notch somewhere around 500 to 800hz to get rid of mud and there's usually a big hump at 100 to 200hz that might need a notch to stop it clashing with the kick or snare (example for bass btw)
Also avoid using effects on the low channel i find it's sometimes best to not use that channel and make a separate sub bass (exs instrument as mono is the perfect sub bass as default) all depends though :)

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Re: Splitting frequencies in logic

Post by Mannyyyyy » Sat Jan 01, 2011 2:57 am

i gotcha yea i learned from the reso masterclass little drive on the distorition but enough to make it sound like it. but thank you again dude made my switch from reason to logic a little bit easier :D

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Re: Splitting frequencies in logic

Post by Mannyyyyy » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:31 am

im going to resurrect this thread since whenever i eq my basses whenever i do the mids and hi they come out more muddier then me not splitting them so does anyone have any techniques for eqing

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Re: Splitting frequencies in logic

Post by judge_banks » Sun Jan 23, 2011 2:58 am

I have logic express which doesn't have the same multipresser as logic pro so I split my basses by running it to 3 busses, and then using single band eq's on each bus. So I lowpass the first bus for the sub, then on the 2nd bass I low cut THEN high cut (leaving the midrange) and then on the 3rd bus I use a highpass and it works pretty well for me. and of course when you use the bus sends like that make sure and send the original to no output

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Re: Splitting frequencies in logic

Post by Mannyyyyy » Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:04 am

whats a rough estimate on what your cutting for mids cause thats where i get into problems

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Re: Splitting frequencies in logic

Post by chewie » Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:28 am

Mannyyyyy wrote:whats a rough estimate on what your cutting for mids cause thats where i get into problems
Like i said above most instruments/drums you name it lurk in the 100 to 1khz region so you've got to be real careful cutting out space for certain things so for bass i'd get rid of mud at around 500 to 800hz and make some room if it's clashing with your kick and snare at the 100/200hz region don't go too crazy with notching stuff out cos your bass will start to sound a bit weedy. Trust your ears and have a look at what's going on in an analyser.

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Re: Splitting frequencies in logic

Post by rawali » Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:31 am

Is there no logic equivalent of live's audio effect rack... where you can have multiple effect chains?

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