140 bpm drum and bass? reverse drumstep? query

[pete_bubonic]

we all going back to making breakstep?

oh god I hope so.

I still don't get drumstep, surely it's just halfstep dnb which has been done by bare people.

[Sirius]

yeah dubstep is real fuckin cliche at the mo ah. & its sites like this that breed it.
then theres all the tutorials on utube & shit.

I want some more jungle, funk, jazzy productions to come out!
& why the fuck did I only just hear Submotion orchestra yesterday??

I think we need more collab shit goin on... 8 piece collabs like!
We are missing out on all the texture of the real instruments i reckon.

TIME TO GET BACK TO THE MUSICALITY!!
RECORD EM BREAKS & THEN CHOP EM UP!!
(is this the highest form of elitism??.... nah, tis the real)

!!chea

[Fbac]

wow lots of comments,
Have to come back later when i can hear whats been posted in response.

[Fbac]

Tottaly agree with sirus too ^^ massive collabs should hopefully have some good results...

[abZ]

Yeah bring back breakstep. I miss Toastyboy!

[Fbac]

@joeroxor .... indeed i am late... this sounds very dnb in places ^^ thx for the post

@cloak and dagger.. liking thAat first tune easy rolling jungle beforethe rave stabs nice

@Debaser , yea genres are silly only recently found out that Neurofunk was the dnb sound i liked! the state of mind tracks for example. And trancestep was taken for trancy dnb ,,,, but what about trancy dubstep? oh well its all electronic music to me... (: (time to break the mold lets make a live Dubstep band!)

i shall go look up some halfstep tunes... ... ... ..

[Debaser1]

I never said there was a rule book! AND I'm not a noob.

[Fbac]

@Debaser that duck shredder subs lush!

[Sharmaji]

i'd rather here crummy ripoffs of toasty than crummy ripoffs of the circus records gang any day of the week.

this whole "drumstep" thing is a complete and utter lowest-common-denominator phenom.. fine, whatever, the world needs heavy rave music... but it's the same sound that's made so much current dubstep feel like a halftime version of tear-out breaks.

tearout breaks being, let's face it, the least sexy dance music ever.

there's been chopped breaks at 140bpm for 20-odd years. if you took an amen, played it at 45bpm and sped it up to +8 on a turntable, you were at around 146bpm-- thus, the earliest breakbeat rave stuff to proper be called "jungle" was around there, until folks got super-intricate w/ their chopping and slicing.

dubstep-wise, the first obvious amen i came across was skream's "Lightning" in 06, but i 100% expect that i was late to the amens-in-dubstep party.

as far as live (to any extent) dubstep goes, there's at least 3 who've posted in this thread working on it-- def. part of the landscape these days.

[zonetrooper5]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_beat

[GrouchDub]

Some of the HALF TEMPO DRUM & BASS tunes i've heard are really sick, but making a new sub genre name called drumstep is a pile of wank imo.
But yeah it's basically just breaks or dubstep aswell..

[DJ Crackle]

reverse drumstep

dub n bass?

[Fbac]

@zonetrooper5 that wiki link was pretty cool ^^

[deadly_habit]

amazing how amit did loads of halftime shit without needing a new genre name

[sigbowls]

i like all breaks

[Dreadfunk]

This thread highlights how asinine genres have become in EDM.

The problem is people want to classify music by Sound and Tempo so lazy DJs can find tunes that will work with their sets. But when you multiply sound by tempo you get a shitload of retarded sub-genres.

So half time jump up is drumstep? So what about half time Neuro? That's still drum and bass right? What if I took a Mala tune and played it faster? What do you call that? What would you call Bassnectar's 170 half time stuff? Hip hop? But it's Dubstep when he does it at 140 right?.... Right?

It's silly.

[thor_beatz]

Those who do not have a style adopt a method. – Albert Camus

Style is knowing who you are, what to say, and not giving a damn. – Gore Vidal

[DJ Crackle]

This thread highlights how asinine genres have become in EDM.

The problem is people want to classify music by Sound and Tempo so lazy DJs can find tunes that will work with their sets. But when you multiply sound by tempo you get a shitload of retarded sub-genres.

So half time jump up is drumstep? So what about half time Neuro? That's still drum and bass right? What if I took a Mala tune and played it faster? What do you call that? What would you call Bassnectar's 170 half time stuff? Hip hop? But it's Dubstep when he does it at 140 right?.... Right?

It's silly.

don't be hatin :p

I organize my shit with a pretty specific genre set in my itunes for the exact reason you specified, lazy djing.
but tbh i hate the subgenre shit. i never say drumstep out loud. ever. lol

[paravrais]

This thread highlights how asinine genres have become in EDM.

The problem is people want to classify music by Sound and Tempo so lazy DJs can find tunes that will work with their sets. But when you multiply sound by tempo you get a shitload of retarded sub-genres.

So half time jump up is drumstep? So what about half time Neuro? That's still drum and bass right? What if I took a Mala tune and played it faster? What do you call that? What would you call Bassnectar's 170 half time stuff? Hip hop? But it's Dubstep when he does it at 140 right?.... Right?

It's silly.

The way I see it, in EDM/dance music, unlike other forms of music, genre is dictated by the actual melodies etc last of all. The first thing that dictates genre is tempo, the second is the drum programming and only then, if your still not sure do you look to the musical elements (but 99x out of 100 the tempo and drums will already tell you). I find the best thing with sub genres is to just ignore them. Any DnB whether halftime or not is just DnB to me, that happens to be halftime. The reason subgenres to me seem like bollocks is because they don't seem to have any defining features or boundaries, which by definition is what you need to make the distinction that something is a genre.

[Sharmaji]

my conceptualization:

d&b w/ halftime vibes is just that... d&b that feels halftime. from Amit on through everyone else.

autonomic is stuff out on autonomic.

drumstep is halftime d&b with those godawful chainsaw boners in the songs.