Techniques for widening bass?

[Basic A]

mdaStereo is free and has great mono-compatability, as well as working extremely well. Obviously you can only do this on higher freqs. There was a nother free plug called BassLane i think which would sum freqs below a threshold into mono, dont know how well the crossover in it works tho.

Personally I think that whole make your subs true mono thing is shit... Sure, dont go stereo widening them or anything, but if your building your synth patches right there should be no need to further fuck with the phase relationships in your signal trying to split and mono the bottom end, its should be centered enough in the first place... if that makes sense?

[erratech]

I thought there were two reasons, that if it was getting pressed it couldnt be too stereo below a certain freq or it would cause the cutting head to jump. And the reason that i do it, because the lower a frequency is the less directionality is perceived. So you are wasting headroom (because the volume is unevenly distributed between the two channels) or causing phase issues within the room that it is played in (if you are playing notes that are detuned against each other/not in phase).

[Basic A]

I thought there were two reasons, that if it was getting pressed it couldnt be too stereo below a certain freq or it would cause the cutting head to jump. And the reason that i do it, because the lower a frequency is the less directionality is perceived. So you are wasting headroom (because the volume is unevenly distributed between the two channels) or causing phase issues within the room that it is played in (if you are playing notes that are detuned against each other/not in phase).

Theres loads of other reasons too, Im not saying a fairly centered bass isnt necessary, its key. Cutting heads, theres only one sub output in a club, psychoacoustics, phase issues in mono, ect. But. Im saying that all these stereo enhancing, bottom end mono'ing do-dads you guys are worrying about are just trying to polish what should already have been set coming out of the synths.

[Spinlock]

Stereo tools or not that effective, because you need a strong stereo sound before it could be used properly... But if you have widened your sound & you think it's still not wide enough... put a stereo tool after all the effects and play with it

Ah yea, that basically sums it up I think. You helped me finally understand the Izotope Ozone interface. Horizontal delay sliders are a pure l/r delay, and the vertical sliders just increase the amount of pre-existing stereo data. The vertical slider only works if there is already some stereo already.

Oh yea, and the dimension expander is seriously awesome. I'd like to find a VST effect that can do something similar to that

[phrex]

just to point out: that's how every thread in here should look like.

[Aquathesis]

Stereo tools or not that effective, because you need a strong stereo sound before it could be used properly... But if you have widened your sound & you think it's still not wide enough... put a stereo tool after all the effects and play with it

Ah yea, that basically sums it up I think. You helped me finally understand the Izotope Ozone interface. Horizontal delay sliders are a pure l/r delay, and the vertical sliders just increase the amount of pre-existing stereo data. The vertical slider only works if there is already some stereo already.

Oh yea, and the dimension expander is seriously awesome. I'd like to find a VST effect that can do something similar to that

A-men about dimension expander vst, IDEK WTF that thing actually is, its like a reverb with no release or something, and Ive notice it correlates so well in mono....

[benjam]

Kvr forum on massives dim expand;
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3047440

[tylerblue]

This thread is so much win.

Welcome to the forum Spinlock! You're big on DOA!


.......what are the odds of you re-upping your resampling tutorials, by the way...